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DuBsTeRmAn 11-15-2008 06:15 PM

Low playercount
 
Well, Yes i think so.

The playercount starts being lower, and lower, and lower.. It is getting bored around here, Alot of lag. (especially era)

Wondering what is gonna happen now ;o

kia345 11-15-2008 06:21 PM

The forums are 'dieing', that's for sure.

Crono 11-15-2008 06:27 PM

It's been dying for a while now.

DarkReaper0 11-15-2008 06:34 PM

Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.


Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

cbk1994 11-15-2008 07:48 PM

Graal is quite possibly "dieng", but I think it's got a while left. Especially once the iPhone version comes out.

Tigairius 11-15-2008 08:23 PM

No, it's not dying.

LoneAngelIbesu 11-15-2008 10:24 PM

It depends on what you consider an "alive" Graal to be. On Valikorlia, at least, the average player count has been the same for years.

Elizabeth 11-15-2008 10:24 PM

some servers are dying.
others are growing.

Vima 11-15-2008 11:12 PM

Graal is definitely losing players, according to graalstats it have lost ~130 players in 4 months.

Tigairius 11-15-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1442461)
Graal is definitely losing players, according to graalstats it have lost ~130 players in 4 months.

Do you know what else happened 4 months ago?

School started. I don't know about your school, but my school didn't let me play Graal during class time.

Crimson2005 11-15-2008 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1442417)
No, it's not dying.

Yes, it is. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You're either extremely deluded or being sarcastic. I hope it's the latter.

Tigairius 11-15-2008 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1442464)
Yes, it is. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise. You're either extremely deluded or being sarcastic. I hope it's the latter.

I'm not being sarcastic. Graal isn't dying. People just like to negatively diagnose things so they can feel like they're contributing to the conversation. They don't take time to really research. It's not dying, and I have yet to see any proof of it dying other than school starting.

xXziroXx 11-15-2008 11:30 PM

I've been saying the same as Tig from the start, and I'd be damned to stop now.

Clockwork 11-15-2008 11:31 PM

It's not dieing, the population is as regular as it ever is.

Though, Graal itself is steadily growing outdated.

Elizabeth 11-15-2008 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1442463)
School started.

exactly.
have any of you ever noticed that when summer starts, graal grows? and when school starts, it loses players?


because that's whats been happening for the past few years. or atleast as long as i've been playing.

:rolleyes:

Darlene159 11-15-2008 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442475)
exactly.
have any of you ever noticed that when summer starts, graal grows? and when school starts, it loses players?


because that's whats been happening for the past few years. or atleast as long as i've been playing.

:rolleyes:

Seems like this needs to be said every year for some reason.

Vima 11-16-2008 12:10 AM

YEARS ago it didn't really matter if there were school, or vacations. Graal always had a steady playercount. I dunno Tig, maybe you just hang around on GK which have always had 10-20 players online these years. So maybe you can't see that other servers on Classic tab, which used to have 100+ every day are now having 60+. Each week they're losing players. Let's take UN for example: 6 months ago, they had 120 players, according to graalstats, today roughly 50 players. HMM.. But wait, maybe we can go back this exact day last year? It had about 90 players back then, now it have ~50. Where did the 40 players go? Huh Tig? Maybe UMM MORE PEOPLZ GO 2 SCHOOL NOWDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Let's skip the bull****. :]

kia345 11-16-2008 12:18 AM

Graal has been "losing players over the years", but that hardly constitutes as dying.

Nataxo 11-16-2008 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkReaper0 (Post 1442389)
Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.


Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

lol'd

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkReaper0 (Post 1442389)
Attention everyone please calm down, Stefan and Unixmad are definitely taking care of this.


Everyone knows the extreme success of the iphone will save the computer version of graal!

Oh wait....we're being replaced!

no no, the flying technology that was supposed to be realeased, what- a year ago?- will save graal! duh!

Tigairius 11-16-2008 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442503)
a year ago?

Try 2-3 years.

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1442505)
Try 2-3 years.


funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

Tigairius 11-16-2008 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442508)
funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

Well, it's really not always that simple. I'm sure they'll finish it some day.

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1442513)
Well, it's really not always that simple. I'm sure they'll finish it some day.

i doubt that day will come.

DustyPorViva 11-16-2008 12:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442508)
funny, you'd think that they'd work on flying technology and actually finish the project before releasing graal for iphone.

It was finished, for two or three years. They just didn't release it because they think players will just forget about it. Great, right?

kia345 11-16-2008 12:48 AM

We forgot about it anyways. I don't seem to understand their motive.

It almost sounds like when Stefan said "so you don't forget about it" that he was calling us ungrateful for not cherishing the updates we do get.

Galdor 11-16-2008 12:49 AM

I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

DustyPorViva 11-16-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1442518)
I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

Because it's not really Graal... it's basically the skills server(and apparently one way more improved than what's on Graal). So really, iPhone players are enjoying flash games, not Graal.

Crono 11-16-2008 12:54 AM

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Graal isn't dying, what are you talking about guys?

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1442517)
for not cherishing the updates we don't get.

fixed.

cbk1994 11-16-2008 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vima (Post 1442489)
YEARS ago it didn't really matter if there were school, or vacations. Graal always had a steady playercount. I dunno Tig, maybe you just hang around on GK which have always had 10-20 players online these years. So maybe you can't see that other servers on Classic tab, which used to have 100+ every day are now having 60+. Each week they're losing players. Let's take UN for example: 6 months ago, they had 120 players, according to graalstats, today roughly 50 players. HMM.. But wait, maybe we can go back this exact day last year? It had about 90 players back then, now it have ~50. Where did the 40 players go? Huh Tig? Maybe UMM MORE PEOPLZ GO 2 SCHOOL NOWDAYS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

Let's skip the bull****. :]

You talk like GK never had 100+ players.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Galdor (Post 1442518)
I just don't get why graal would be more fun on iphone tho, I mean it has like 1126 players atm while the pc graal has 441 players (even counted with all the dev servers) X.x

There is no iPhone version of Graal yet, but their games like Adrenaline Pool are counted in. The games are actually pretty decent.

Crimson2005 11-16-2008 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tigairius (Post 1442465)
I'm not being sarcastic. Graal isn't dying. People just like to negatively diagnose things so they can feel like they're contributing to the conversation. They don't take time to really research. It's not dying, and I have yet to see any proof of it dying other than school starting.

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games :rolleyes:

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson2005 (Post 1442528)
No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games :rolleyes:

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

Crimson2005 11-16-2008 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442529)
okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

It didn't when the Summer break started, why would it for Winter?

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 01:24 AM

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

Galdor 11-16-2008 01:27 AM

I made an ad for us to use, was a bit inspired by an ad on the swedish Greenpeace site.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8953/addyp4.jpg

Crimson2005 11-16-2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442531)
I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

The point is that Graal will most likely continue to decline unless we have some updates on a regular basis. Even servers are not updating on a regular basis now and things are not going to fix themselves.

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 01:35 AM

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.
Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

Crono 11-16-2008 01:43 AM

Look at the graph picture I posted, it has nothing to do with school, summer, or work.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elizabeth (Post 1442535)
Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Quote:

Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.
Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually done.

Elizabeth 11-16-2008 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1442536)
Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Zone:
-Bunker
-New heads, bodies.
-New guns: Plasma Chaingun, Silencer, RedRifle&BlueRifle are made buyable.
-Cakes
-Spar is to be updated soon, as said in "spar room" thread.

Unholy Nation:
-New Tileset
-Snow
-Streety is the new manager.
-Lots of hirings. (GATS, GPs, DJs)
-Unholy Radio has recently been broadcasting.

Quote:

Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually [i]done[/i

Plans are to be finished.
And when they are finished, they are updates.

Lots of plans= Lots of updates.


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