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Nataxo 09-21-2008 08:07 PM

Rights for trails
 
Question: what are the max rights a trail account can have on a Gold Server? i mean rights like "warpto" "RC" etc...

cbk1994 09-21-2008 08:58 PM

They shouldn't have any, in my opinion. I don't know that there's a limit, though. I think it's possible for them to warp and such, but not get on RC.

pooper200000 09-21-2008 09:14 PM

Are there the same limitations on client RC as there are on normal RC? I would guess that they have the same limitations, but I just thought of that. Does anyone know?

maximus_asinus 09-21-2008 09:15 PM

no cars on trail

DuBsTeRmAn 09-21-2008 09:54 PM

Trials cant use RC. Only gold players can..

Nataxo 09-21-2008 10:57 PM

Does anybody knows for sure if trails can warp at gold servers?

LoneAngelIbesu 09-22-2008 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1425333)
Does anybody knows for sure if trails can warp at gold servers?

I would assume that they can use scripted staff tools. However, if it's anything connected to RC (client or external), they cannot use it. So, if you are hiring trial accounts (which I would not advise x_x), you would need to script a separate warpto command (warptolevel, maybe?).

knightfire35 09-22-2008 03:22 AM

I don't think they can use RC.

DuBsTeRmAn 09-22-2008 08:27 AM

They can't use RC, I've tested it on my new account. Only gold players can open/use any kind of RC. But yes Naxato. Trials can warp on servers, If they have a scripted warp tool.

Chompy 09-22-2008 03:50 PM

Anyone with a subscription can logon rc on a server that they have subscription for.

You need kingdoms/zone subscription to have a rc on there. You either need playerworlds subscription or classic lifetime to use rc on a classic server, and you need a playerworld subscription to use a rc on a hosted or uc playerworld.

If you paid for a server through one of the developer subscriptions, you can of course access your server without the need of a playerworld subscription.

Nataxo 09-23-2008 11:44 PM

so, as conclusion for this thread:

Trails cannot get RCs anywhere unless they buy a subscrition.

Trails cannot warp unless by some special ocation they script special tools for that specific trail.

Trails cannot get tags unless its a different script.

So i conclude that the most rights a trail can have is commands over the normal players.

am i right?:o

Tigairius 09-24-2008 01:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1425805)
so, as conclusion for this thread:

Trails cannot get RCs anywhere unless they buy a subscrition.

Trails cannot warp unless by some special ocation they script special tools for that specific trail.

Trails cannot get tags unless its a different script.

So i conclude that the most rights a trail can have is commands over the normal players.

am i right?:o

You are correct, but trials are a completely different story.
Trials can get staff tags and trials can warp via a script but cannot get RC. Trails can not get any of that, nor can trails even play Graal.

Soala 09-24-2008 02:13 PM

Why does everyone keep saying TRAILS instead of trials
is it me or you'r all totally wrong ?
Or maybe I've been wrong for a while now ? O_O

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 10:00 PM

Trials should have no rights due to the fact they have not paid like the rest why should we get outsourced and lose possible jobs we could get.

Nataxo 09-24-2008 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1425983)
Trials should have no rights due to the fact they have not paid like the rest why should we get outsourced and lose possible jobs we could get.

disagreed. so you're saying you pay to someone to work for him/her?

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 10:14 PM

I am saying it is not fair for people to get the same things that players who accualy pay to play. If you want a job pay don't complain you have the option.

xAzerothx 09-24-2008 10:16 PM

If you want a job on a server shouldn't you show your support for Graal by buying a subscription?

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 10:19 PM

Why should trials get the same rights as the people who payed honestly make it free if the trials get the same. No where does it mention trials are equal.

Nataxo 09-24-2008 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1426001)
If you want a job on a server shouldn't you show your support for Graal by buying a subscription?

not in my opinion, i think Stefan should be way more than happy because there is people who will just buy the subscription in order to work for him.

so now we see that if you have a Gold subscription you have more advantages for Staff positions than trails.

xAzerothx 09-24-2008 10:56 PM

My statement wasn't an opinion.

If you want to work somewhere you should have to pay them to use their facilities.

DarkRenji 09-24-2008 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1426003)
Why should trials get the same rights as the people who payed honestly make it free if the trials get the same. No where does it mention trials are equal.

It also said people who paid would get "Bonus's" on servers back when I got my account years ago, But The only " Bonus" we got were global guilds, Witch are not even allowed on some servers... x.X



P.S. Trials can upgrade or GTFO! God forbid them trying to handel a problem then going into "OB" x.X

Nataxo 09-24-2008 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1426024)
My statement wasn't an opinion.

If you want to work somewhere you should have to pay them to use their facilities.

but they're not getting paid...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1426025)
It also said people who paid would get "Bonus's" on servers back when I got my account years ago, But The only " Bonus" we got were global guilds, Witch are not even allowed on some servers... x.X



P.S. Trials can upgrade or GTFO! God forbid them trying to handel a problem then going into "OB" x.X

Observer mode its just annoying and i'll never upgrade because of it.

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 10:58 PM

Trials have been around for a while we can classify most trials to be idiots or complete noob's that they dress up and act like they are seven. They have very little to give to us so why give to them. They want a job on any server buy an account... Also graal is not for jobs its for social activities used otherwise would be a mishap of this games purpose.

Nataxo 09-24-2008 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1426028)
Trials have been around for a while we can classify most trials to be idiots or complete noob's that they dress up and act like they are seven. They have very little to give to us so why give to them. They want a job on any server buy an account... Also graal is not for jobs its for social activities used otherwise would be a mishap of this games purpose.

Graal cant live without trails.

Quote:

Also graal is not for jobs its for social activities used otherwise would be a mishap of this games purpose.
agreed on dat.

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 11:06 PM

To me trials had it better back before observer could play hours no observer only downside was you could not save lol.

DarkRenji 09-24-2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nataxo (Post 1426027)
Observer mode its just annoying and i'll never upgrade because of it.

Why wont you upgrade if you find it annoying :(
Your cunfuseing me xP

If your trying to rebel it will never work :( ever..

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 11:09 PM

By saying you will never upgrade because of it means you like it? Yet you said its annoying? Can you help I am lost.

cbk1994 09-24-2008 11:10 PM

As it is, observer mode doesn't do enough. There are way too many people who are able to play without upgrading.

It should be restored to the old system of not saving; there is no way you can play a game with that limitation.

DarkRenji 09-24-2008 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1426044)
As it is, observer mode doesn't do enough. There are way too many people who are able to play without upgrading.

It should be restored to the old system of not saving; there is no way you can play a game with that limitation.

I thought you could only play a set-time ever month with trial now' a days

Nataxo 09-24-2008 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1426042)
Why wont you upgrade if you find it annoying :(
Your cunfuseing me xP

If your trying to rebel it will never work :( ever..

sorry if i was being cofusing :oo:

its because the obs mode doesnt let me introduce myself completly into the community, also it doesnt let me see exactly what the game offers me.

i knw being rebel wont do anthing at all but to posibly get me infractions etc..

WarLord2004 09-24-2008 11:27 PM

The only bad mistake Graal cash money team made was letting go of most of the old players i remember when stefan said you need to upgrade your accounts...blah blah so you can still work on a server this was when graal kingdoms was first released so we have lost a good amount of old players who did support graal alot...But as of now am not even sure yea i hate speaking with someone then bam they go into trail mode thingy and then u need to wait and wait.. This kinda messed up graal mabey trials could be limited but not that much...

But am guessing stefan/unix think that if a new player comes to play graal and they like it they would upgrade..But honestly graal is not worth that much yea servers need to be paid for...ect but then again players are the one which supports it there's alot of limitation to the good servers like kingdoms i mean when was the last time kingdoms had 100 players... The best system for kingdoms was to allow classics players or whatever to play on weekends only that was a deal of a lifetime...I bet if that system was still in place ppl would upgrade to either one subscription ...now seeing that apple new graal game would be free of charge the players who support graal for years as in classics account should get benefits also i mean put back weekends we don't ask much... and for trails mabey they should cut down a bit..

cbk1994 09-24-2008 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkRenji (Post 1426046)
I thought you could only play a set-time ever month with trial now' a days

You get four hours to play without observer mode per thirty days. Then you have observer mode for the next thirty days.

However, it normally doesn't work. Sometimes your time won't go down. Sometimes it won't refill after several months. Sometimes it starts at no time.

Nataxo 09-24-2008 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WarLord2004 (Post 1426058)
The only bad mistake Graal cash money team made was letting go of most of the old players i remember when stefan said you need to upgrade your accounts...blah blah so you can still work on a server this was when graal kingdoms was first released so we have lost a good amount of old players who did support graal alot...But as of now am not even sure yea i hate speaking with someone then bam they go into trail mode thingy and then u need to wait and wait.. This kinda messed up graal mabey trials could be limited but not that much...

But am guessing stefan/unix think that if a new player comes to play graal and they like it they would upgrade..But honestly graal is not worth that much yea servers need to be paid for...ect but then again players are the one which supports it there's alot of limitation to the good servers like kingdoms i mean when was the last time kingdoms had 100 players... The best system for kingdoms was to allow classics players or whatever to play on weekends only that was a deal of a lifetime...I bet if that system was still in place ppl would upgrade to either one subscription ...now seeing that apple new graal game would be free of charge the players who support graal for years as in classics account should get benefits also i mean put back weekends we don't ask much... and for trails mabey they should cut down a bit..

exactly, nice post, i'll +rep u in a few hours...<_<

this is what happens to me:

I'm at my first day at Era, after this "welcome" observer mode i finally play. as i know, I try to set my head/body etc to my custom look. then i walk around a bit to see what the servers theme is. i found out that it was a some sort of "the real life server" i was enjoyed by this idea, so i asked politely to someone to show me where the gun shop was.

BANG! i was shot.

well, i cant excpect nice behaviour from every player so i tried again, and this time it was a very nice lady that was guiding me to the nearest gunshop but then....

BANG! the observer mode hit me! while i had the observer mode the lady walked away and i never saw her again :cry::cry::cry:


Several situations like this have happened before to me, its the main reason why i barely have any friends at Playerworlds ='(

Unkownsoldier 09-24-2008 11:51 PM

I don't care of trials they can do what they want but at the end of the day who cares.


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