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Knightmare1 01-05-2008 06:26 AM

Transperant Program?
 
i hate having limited colors with .gif, but thats the only type of image i can transperant.. is there a program thats free that can transperant?

Xterminator 01-05-2008 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1368168)
i hate having limited colors with .gif, but thats the only type of image i can transperant.. is there a program thats free that can transperant?

Giffy?

Elk 01-05-2008 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1368168)
i hate having limited colors with .gif, but thats the only type of image i can transperant.. is there a program thats free that can transperant?

Gif has 256 colors...how is that not enough for graal

DustyPorViva 01-05-2008 08:38 AM

256 is more than enough for pixel-art... but anyways. GIMP.

Knightmare1 01-05-2008 08:59 AM

wenever i use .gif it makes my colors dissapear.. i take so much time shading them and then they go all ****ty when i save it to .gif.

Crow 01-05-2008 01:51 PM

Use a better program to safe as gif. I never tried it for saving gif files, but try IrfanView ;o Supports transparency, too.

Chompy 01-05-2008 04:23 PM

If you save .gif files with MS Paint colors all get messy, this also happens if you work with a filetype that is not jpg/jpeg and then save it as .jpg/.jpeg

gemini2 01-05-2008 05:02 PM

Download giffy, save it as a 24 bit BMP, in paint, then convert to GIF in Giffy, open it again, and transparent it :)
That's what I have to do now, I miss my Windows Photo Editor...It was a piece of crap, but it at least let me semi-trans things, and trans more than one thing at a time...

Stephen 01-05-2008 05:15 PM

Find a program that will save in 24BIT PNG. This format supports alpha transparencies as well as solid transparencies.

Photoshop CS1+ supports functioning 24BIT PNGs.

Knightmare1 01-05-2008 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gemini2 (Post 1368219)
Download giffy, save it as a 24 bit BMP, in paint, then convert to GIF in Giffy, open it again, and transparent it :)
That's what I have to do now, I miss my Windows Photo Editor...It was a piece of crap, but it at least let me semi-trans things, and trans more than one thing at a time...

nice!!!! and i have Windows Photo Editor...

cbk1994 01-06-2008 12:14 AM

Use IrfanView, it works great for saving PNGs. Just make a BMP and then open it and save it as a PNG with transparency.

Elk 01-06-2008 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Stephen (Post 1368221)
Find a program that will save in 24BIT PNG. This format supports alpha transparencies as well as solid transparencies.

Photoshop CS1+ supports functioning 24BIT PNGs.

Don't forget the popular 7.0 :<

Stephen 01-06-2008 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Elk (Post 1368350)
Don't forget the popular 7.0 :<

Photoshop 7 doesn't save PNG 24BIT properly, which results in PNGs that don't work in Graal.

Angel_Light 01-06-2008 05:44 AM

24 bit doesnt have transparency, all .gifs will lose colors if you use colors outside the 8 bit range, I recommend .png over .gif. But .gif can be useful for simple images, and animations. save to 8 bit Pngs. Gimp can do this I believe, there is a list of programs in the lounge.

Knightmare1 01-06-2008 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1368368)
24 bit doesnt have transparency, all .gifs will lose colors if you use colors outside the 8 bit range, I recommend .png over .gif. But .gif can be useful for simple images, and animations. save to 8 bit Pngs. Gimp can do this I believe, there is a list of programs in the lounge.

i can save it to .bmp and use giffy to make it .gif and it wont lose any colors!

Stephen 01-06-2008 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1368368)
24 bit doesnt have transparency, all .gifs will lose colors if you use colors outside the 8 bit range, I recommend .png over .gif. But .gif can be useful for simple images, and animations. save to 8 bit Pngs. Gimp can do this I believe, there is a list of programs in the lounge.

The reason I mention 24 bit PNGs is because they support 16bit color and 8 bit alpha masking.

16+8=24
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Originally Posted by Knightmare1 (Post 1368372)
i can save it to .bmp and use giffy to make it .gif and it wont lose any colors!

Welcome to real life, where BMP is able to save in 24bit color and GIF can only save to 8bit.

The dunce caps in the corner are free, but I'm afraid it's a BYOB party.

Angel_Light 01-06-2008 05:59 AM

ON the 8 bit standards though, I though 24bit cant have since 8 bits are for each Color (Red, Green, Blue) and an additional 8 bits for alpha which would make it 32 bit, am I correct or am I missing something?

Stephen 01-06-2008 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Angel_Light (Post 1368377)
ON the 8 bit standards though, I though 24bit cant have since 8 bits are for each Color (Red, Green, Blue) and an additional 8 bits for alpha which would make it 32 bit, am I correct or am I missing something?

Varying bit-depths are not static, they're logarithmic. Each color (RGB) doesn't occupy entire an octet, they occupy a entry in the bit set.

Bit....07..06..05..04 03..02..01..00
Data...R....R...R...G...G...G....B...B

cbk1994 01-06-2008 06:56 AM

Why would you use Giffy to save a GIF when you can use IrfanView to save a PNG? If you can afford it, I prefer Fireworks, but Photoshop works aswell.

ArushenP2P 01-07-2008 07:08 AM

I use Giffy and that program Graal attached with their folder. MNG thingy.


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