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quintin1992 07-11-2007 07:25 PM

Poll: Does Zone need police?
 
I've been thinking about this for a while, and it frustrates me that we dont have enough people with kick/ban rights to always lock hackers, which make it a pain for us p2p. Im suggesting the ET's choose 7 people, based on thier credibility and how many times they have reported hackers to zone staff. The only powers the zone police would have would be locking, unlocking, and kick. (Possibility) If they have had to ban an account 3 or more times, they can host a small meeting with other police, with a minimum of 4 required, to decide if they should ban account. That would be nice since alot of hackers just come back later, and because to my knowledge Gambit is the only one who can ban, and hes almost never on. Add your opinion on this and comments.

anubis_wing 07-11-2007 07:39 PM

Well, Zone does need more people to watch the hackers, but it's hard to find credible people.

jkool666 07-11-2007 08:13 PM

Won't work. If Stefan can't trust his ET's with ban rights, hes not going to trust other players with them. Also kick/lock are probably the most likely commands to be abused if someone was to get rights.

DutchGuy 07-11-2007 08:40 PM

just shut down zone, with the new updates coming in Graal V5, it will go downwards.

Gambet 07-11-2007 08:44 PM

I handle all players that are reported in the special staff report thread that is private to everyone except Zone staff. If the current Zone staff want someone taken care of, then they should post there.

pooper200000 07-11-2007 08:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quintin1992 (Post 1328224)
stuff

gambet is on just not when you are. I agree with what gambet said.
Quote:

Originally Posted by DutchGuy (Post 1328265)
just shut down zone, with the new updates coming in Graal V5, it will go downwards.

so you are saying this because you are someone who uses hacks?

anubis_wing 07-11-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1328267)
I handle all players that are reported in the special staff report thread that is private to everyone except Zone staff. If the current Zone staff want someone taken care of, then they should post there.

Yeah, I don't know where that is.

SayianOozaru 07-11-2007 10:00 PM

anubis, you probably don't have it then. the 3 staff sections are listed under "information", if you have it.

Dante55555 07-11-2007 10:34 PM

Could have sworn zone already had police. Sept they went by the fancy name of "ET"

anubis_wing 07-11-2007 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SayianOozaru (Post 1328306)
anubis, you probably don't have it then. the 3 staff sections are listed under "information", if you have it.

I don't understand why I don't have it.

Vulcan 07-12-2007 03:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anubis_wing (Post 1328344)
I don't understand why I don't have it.

You never asked! :D

Crono 07-12-2007 04:48 AM

no

MisterMastermind 07-12-2007 05:50 AM

I don't think the current people given power are fit for the job, but they're probably the best stefan could find on zone anyway.

anubis_wing 07-12-2007 01:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vulcan (Post 1328433)
You never asked! :D

Aaaaaaand now I do -.- Thanks.

It's not getting out of hand they've really died down a few here and there.

dude2020 07-13-2007 12:19 AM

Let's see this is what ive seen. This is just my opinion
Vulcan-RC 24/7 :(
Gambet-Where the **** he go and why is Vulcan back.
Huwa-On when he can.
Jesse-Zodiac has consumed him.
Sayian-Too lazy to log in.
Raven-GK most of the time, BTW don't pull that "But you can pm me if you have any problems!" Most people on Zone doesn't even know what Gk is :/
Anuber-On when he can.

Plus the most of the people here listed also have to do Events/Can ban, Vulcan's banning speed i don't know, Gambet's, Jesse told me he was slow.
Somehow i know gonna get a flame or somthing from a certain person.

xAzerothx 07-13-2007 01:34 AM

I voted it was silly and wouldn't help Zone.

Leoxx 07-13-2007 01:49 AM

quintin, its useless ask for it cause they will always say no. ive asked for police as well but i just got bombarded. though there are people on alot (ex: SN and Huwa ive seen on lately) people arent on all the time. in that time period a hacker can hack, torment people, and make a new account before the old one gets banned..if it ever does...

UnknownMasterMind 07-13-2007 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by xAzerothx (Post 1328777)
I voted it was silly and wouldn't help Zone.

Me too, rofl.

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Seriously, this is silly, because I think whoever started this thread just wanted a chance to be Staff, because they asked for 7 GPs that it a outrageous amount, if we did indeed need a GP it should only be one, but we already have one, Gambet.

If you want to be able to report people then simply get proof, PM an ET, or even SN to witness the hacker, they can then report them. Or get a Video of them, and this should become very easy to do very soon, as Graal V5 will have a video recording program with it, and by the pictures its quality is better then Fraps for graal.

Now, Yes it is true sometimes their is no one, but even if we had 7 GP (like that would happen), their would still eventually arise a time when none are on, and then someone makes a thread agian, and this discussion happens agian.

Edit: Vulcan is also on all the time, so just PM him to witness it.

Sincerely,
Desear

dude2020 07-13-2007 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1328806)
Blahblahblahiknowishouldaddsomthingthatshouldbeinm ysig!

Vulcan is on RC all the time and most of the time he has the black head and not the red. (For you nubs that don't know, Black=away, Red=looking at playerlist) I've pmed Vulcan a few times of a hacker, does he come on? No.
About Gambet, if what Jesse said to me about his banning speed, a hacker could hack 10 times and yet to be banned.

pooper200000 07-13-2007 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328814)
Vulcan is on RC all the time and most of the time he has the black head and not the red. (For you nubs that don't know, Black=away, Red=looking at playerlist) I've pmed Vulcan a few times of a hacker, does he come on? No.
About Gambet, if what Jesse said to me about his banning speed, a hacker could hack 10 times and yet to be banned.

gambet bans accounts within 10 minutes of reporting them usually john. Regarding our god of war and forgery(Vulcan)he only comes when the proper respect is given to him and he is not disrespected in that mannner.

dude2020 07-13-2007 04:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1328843)
gambet bans accounts within 10 minutes of reporting them usually john. Regarding our god of war and forgery(Vulcan)he only comes when the proper respect is given to him and he is not disrespected in that mannner.

Oh so if i say "There's a hacker doing such and such and the account name is *insert here* he won't come on?

Plus whatever you say im going with what Jesse said.

anubis_wing 07-13-2007 04:29 AM

Vulcan stuck his middle finger up at me today in a very graphic picture, I felt very upset and ashamed.

Gambet 07-13-2007 06:27 AM

Yes, let's all blame the trainer user problem on me. It's obviously my fault and has nothing to do with Graal's crappy security system. -_-

dude2020 07-13-2007 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1328883)
Yes, let's all blame the trainer user problem on me. It's obviously my fault and has nothing to do with Graal's crappy security system. -_-

We don't blame them, We blame the person who bans them. -_-

Gambet 07-13-2007 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328904)
We don't blame them, We blame the person who bans them. -_-


Yeah, blame the guy that bans trainer users, that's smart! That would be a nice way to get me to not want to have to deal with people like you, thus not showing my face.


As I stated before, I ban everyone that the rest of the staff reports in the special staff-online section of the Zone forums. If they need anyone banned, they can post there and *poof*, they're banned!

dude2020 07-13-2007 08:02 AM

But you take so slow! Quote from Jesse :) Now ive seem the same person hack more than 10 times and around the 2nd time some ET (Can't remeber who) said he was being banned.

Gambet 07-13-2007 08:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328908)
But you take so slow! Quote from Jesse :) Now ive seem the same person hack more than 10 times and around the 2nd time some ET (Can't remeber who) said he was being banned.




There havn't been any recent posts, so blame it on the active ETs that play everyday for not reporting people!

dude2020 07-13-2007 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Gambet (Post 1328910)
There havn't been any recent posts, so blame it on the active ETs that play everyday for not reporting people!

Who the **** said it was recent there buddy boy.

Gambet 07-13-2007 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328911)
Who the **** said it was recent there buddy boy.



Everybody listed in the thread has already been taken care of. If there are still trainer users running around, then they havn't been listed in the thread.

Crono 07-13-2007 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328911)
Who the **** said it was recent there buddy boy.

Wow shut the hell up buddy boy. You're obviously clueless.

dude2020 07-13-2007 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1328919)
Wow shut the hell up buddy boy. You're obviously clueless.

Wow your so right! im so clueless i have no idea what im talking about! >.>[/sarcasm]

Huwajux 07-13-2007 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dude2020 (Post 1328956)
Wow your so right! im so clueless i have no idea what im talking about! >.>

Post of the year - John tells the truth.

UnknownMasterMind 07-13-2007 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Huwajux (Post 1328967)
Post of the year - John tells the truth.

That made rofl in real life, and then I got back up, and read it agian and it had the same effect. Roflmao.
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John as my posted stated, you will be able to "Video Capture" in V5 with a little bit better quality then Fraps, so just ask a Staff for a E-Mail or they can create one for soley sending in Reports of Hackers with Videp Clips or Links. And if you still say we need a staff how about explain yourself more, Banning does take time, no GP comes on and readies the Ban list and wants to type about 20 names(Yes, I am also including "Copy & Paste").

But really, I am thinking of it now, and if one of the Staff could make a E-Mail soley for reporting hackers, that would help alot.

Sincerely,
Desear

Dante55555 07-13-2007 03:37 PM

Hey! Its Chuck!

UnknownMasterMind 07-13-2007 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1329003)
Hey! Its Chuck!

I came back to play V5, and will go agianst it if it starts to Destroy Zone. ;)

_________

I like your sig. xD

Sincerely,
Desear

Dante55555 07-13-2007 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UnknownMasterMind (Post 1329007)
I came back to play V5, and will go agianst it if it starts to Destroy Zone. ;)

_________

I like your sig. xD

Sincerely,
Desear

V5 is out now? And Cheers, had to do a lot of licking to get them piccys :)

UnknownMasterMind 07-13-2007 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante55555 (Post 1329021)
V5 is out now? And Cheers, had to do a lot of licking to get them piccys :)

xD, V5 is comming out today, they annoucned it yesterday, and seeing how this one will probably be more profitable for them, the release date is probably correct.

Sincerely,
Desear

Ravenblade1979 07-13-2007 04:14 PM

I think being able to usd for zone stuff will destroy it. If you read up you can spend money on gralats to buy zone stuff at the zone store when v5 comes. If thats not ruining zone then I don't know what is.

pooper200000 07-13-2007 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1329032)
I think being able to usd for zone stuff will destroy it. If you read up you can spend money on gralats to buy zone stuff at the zone store when v5 comes. If thats not ruining zone then I don't know what is.

no you can't you can spend gelats on zone stuff if you read up.

Crono 07-13-2007 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pooper200000 (Post 1329061)
no you can't you can spend gelats on zone stuff if you read up.

And how do you get gelats? Wait you'd know this if you read up.


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