PC IDs?
 

I just recently started helping out again with Graal, and I heard about the PC ids being able to be used and I was kind of impressed, and wondering where exactly these IDs come from? My id was in the 100s when I was on Windows, then I switched over to my Kubuntu (Linux) and it was like 32,000 something. Someone told me that one of their friends had a new PC ID everytime they installed a Windows update, so I figured putting on a new linux distro would change my PC ID but it didn't. I now am running Debian with a 2.6.15 kernel (Kubuntu was 2.6.9) and it's still the same ID.

Where the hell do they come from? I'm assuming the OS has something to do with it, but I thought the original plan is it was to read your hardware and go from there? Anyone else have theirs change after they did something, or not change after they did something major to their system?

I think it's a registry thing. Not sure really.

I think it's a clientside random number assigned to the executable on installation.

Exactly where the ID comes from is a secret. It's a combination of things in some sort of equation I think.

I'm curious too, but I'd just as soon keep it a secret so people dont figure a way to change it.

Google does wonders.

Linux doesn't have a registry.

I'd say it is assigned by the os, just the same as the ip. Used for networking maybe?

Assigned by the OS, like the ip? lol?

So when people get ip banned they reinstall windows to play again?

I don't think that would be it, otherwise my two different Linux distrubtions, each running different Kernels, would have different IDs. Also Linux doesn't have a system registry, so that's not practical either.

The computer ID is based on the MAC address of your Ethernet adapter, or in some cases on the disk volume serial number. If you change your Ethernet card or reformat your hard drive, you may be re-assigned a new code.

I found that, which is what Curt1zzle found as well, more than likely. But that id may be created for a particular programs' use. Since it stated after that:

Which in that case, I'd guesse that Graal gives your computer an id when you install the game client, and uses that.

The world may never know...

If you actually expected an answer, Project Shifter, you would probably be better off asking Stefan yourself.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a thread on the topic :)

I didn't really expect anyone to know definitively, but was curious if anyone had some ideas. Asking Stefan would have been too easy and he probably would not be open for explaining it either. A few people suggested it was with Mac addresses or so (not the case, both of my OSes use the same internet hardware), and a few other things that aren't practical. Oh well.

So what if I don't have a Mac? How do I decide my POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHSAODI HWOQIEHOIHSAODIHOQWUEHQOUW

Hack the Mac OSx to work on your Pc, duh. ;)

If you don't have a Mac, then you are eternally doomed. And I'm talking either type of Mac.

Gross! Why would you want the Mac OSX even on a Mac ;) That's why God made Linux distros that run on Macs, lol.

Because then you get UNIX goodness with a more immediately useful OS. Linux is great and all, but it requires work.

Yeah, it does require some work, and it's not for everyone, but the benefits are great =) OSx runs off of a BSD kernel if I remember, similar, and still powerful, but I've never been fond of Mac's "simplicity". They try and dumb it down so much that it's very easy to use, but I have trouble using it because it's almost over-simplified

Well, it's just that, that makes it excellent. The fact that you can open a terminal (or thirty) to get what you want done is all very well, but when you just want to sit and look at pretty interface applications, the option is there waiting for you.
I wouldn't say it's over-simplified, although it is very easy to use. As much as anything, they've made a fast and effortless interface.

It probably is pretty easy to use for most people, but a lot of people I know that do a lot with computers and programming that are used to things being decently complex, it's almost impossible to get anything done. Don't dis on the console either, I always have an xterm up just in case I need to do something ;)

Oh, I am just the same. It's always open somewhere in the background.

My reply was more of a joke on the 'get an intel mac' comments ;)
From what I've seen the Mac OSx looks pretty nice. But there's no legal hacks of it for PCs yet :frown:

It'll only run on a PC which supports SSE3 (or at worst, SSE2), which narrows down a lot of computers.

Secondly, it's hardware support is quite specific.

I've witnessed proublems with OSx though. As weird as it sounds, on a university computer at The University of Texas (long story, don't ask why I was there) they had a room full of macs, but alot of them weren't working. They had just updated from OS9 to OSx and apparently OS9 was rejecting OSx...or something around those lines. That, and I've used several different macs, and I don't really find it any simpler to use than Windows. Windows isn't all proublematic like everyone says. At least not for me it isn't.

I believe I recall the conversation with Stefan, but I don't think it's a topic which should be open to the public of the Graal community :)

I agree