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geneticfrog 12-22-2014 02:30 PM

reducing heals in battle?
 
just pitching an idea to increase the fun potentially in era as everyone and their mothers heal in the middle of battle. personally i think era would be way more fun with less heals. jsut dont get shot so much use them "skills" ;o.(iphone style)

my ideas for nerfing heals in battle:

1. cant heal on PK mode
2. increase PK timer to 10-15 seconds
3. can only heal in a no pk area.
4. hunger meeter that its function is to limit the amount of food you can eat in a row.


I miss the era days when people acutally used skill to stay alive, not heals. if you need to heal maybe you need some practice as well.

Kohola_KinG 12-22-2014 03:11 PM

He wants HP levels removed. Wants heals removed. Just make all guns 100 dmg 1 hit since it's the only way he will get kills i guess.

geneticfrog 12-22-2014 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG (Post 1733441)
He wants HP levels removed. Wants heals removed. Just make all guns 100 dmg 1 hit since it's the only way he will get kills i guess.

you on drugs?
or is that just you sober?

you must have read a thread you created inside your head.

Eclipse 12-22-2014 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1733440)
just pitching an idea to increase the fun potentially in era as everyone and their mothers heal in the middle of battle. personally i think era would be way more fun with less heals. jsut dont get shot so much use them "skills" ;o.(iphone style)

my ideas for nerfing heals in battle:

1. cant heal on PK mode
2. increase PK timer to 10-15 seconds
3. can only heal in a no pk area.
4. hunger meeter that its function is to limit the amount of food you can eat in a row.


I miss the era days when people acutally used skill to stay alive, not heals. if you need to heal maybe you need some practice as well.

stfu noob

Tim_Rocks 12-22-2014 07:12 PM

Pretty sure the iPhone servers aren't based on skill in anyway. The simple fact that there's a lot of players in one spot pretty much guarantees anyone, even Tk, can get a kill.

Supaman771 12-22-2014 08:57 PM

If they're stopping to heal during the fight and you can't capitalize on that then idk what to tell you m8.

Kohola_KinG 12-22-2014 10:15 PM

Another useless thread trying to get something that benefits him. Please lock it up. This guy spams to much where the moderators at?

Tim_Rocks 12-22-2014 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kohola_KinG (Post 1733448)
where the moderators at?

I'm starting to think they've lost interest.

Godzilla 12-22-2014 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1733449)
I'm starting to think they've lost interest.

I don't blame them, a few of the important factors of our own team did and in result quit yesterday.

geneticfrog 12-23-2014 11:34 AM

i guess its cuz last time i remembered era eating food froze you for quite a long time so you basically were committing suicide healing in battle.

it was like 10-15 seconds at least wait time to complete the heal at least.

sure anyone can get a kill but doesn't mean you didn't lame it ;)

ooger 12-23-2014 05:17 PM

Heals are already reduced by 50% in combat, do you even play this game?

Also, why are you even bringing up skill lol there have always been ridiculous ways to get kills and 'be successful', explosives, helicopters, armor, etc all come to mind. It's part of the game if you don't want people to heal so that your skill can truly shine then go spar.

geneticfrog 01-02-2015 02:00 PM

i guess ill have to make a tutorial how to heal and run:

cheese:
1. while you are bleedling low HP take out odachi or big lick to gain some ground.(hotkey it)

2.then when on a long street, hold the L key with left hands thumb to keep running non stop.

3. while holding L use the left hands pinky to press and hold Q so now you are running with invintory up and still running with L right direction.

4. select cheese from invintory with mouse right hand then let go of Q and L then take the normal keys again with right hand moving you and left hand to heal.

5. Keep eating cheese till you are high HP again to run, use Big lick or ordachi to go to a no PK area and finish heal.

since it has no freeze, it heals cuts when you are about to die thus speeding you up again
AND it heals, doesn't matter how much it heals fact is i can run all day and heal.

literally.


Enjoy the frog run and heal tactics i learned from you guys!

Tim_Rocks 01-02-2015 03:36 PM

Geneticfrog must be Tk's little sister.

geneticfrog 01-02-2015 04:00 PM

dont know who TK is but with 10 000 cheese in my invintory, max speed with LW extra speed with big lick... ill be who ever you want me to be cuz im basically untouchable if i want to escape i can even while bleeding ez cheese fix.

era is messed up so bad missing the old days of 20-30 second heal freeze on everyfood! so you only heal after battles not in the middle of it lol

or buddy with healing boomers lol he eats food it couners the loss of health easy mostly if hes not pk.

Tim_Rocks 01-02-2015 04:50 PM

Yeah, okay, MC Hammer.

Supaman771 01-02-2015 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1733635)
Enjoy the frog run and heal tactics i learned from you guys!

Just use AutoHotkey.

shrimps 01-02-2015 07:26 PM

Wow rogue are you promoting macroing and cheating?

Supaman771 01-02-2015 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1733665)
Wow rogue are you promoting macroing and cheating?

I'm promoting common sense. :D

shrimps 01-02-2015 07:44 PM

Sounds like cheating to me.

Crow 01-02-2015 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1733668)
Sounds like cheating to me.

Wouldn't consider that cheating.

shrimps 01-02-2015 08:30 PM

Using a third party program to have an advantage doing something over other players? That's like saying using a macro to mine isn't cheating.

Supaman771 01-02-2015 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1733670)
Using a third party program to have an advantage doing something over other players?

Simplifying a whole methodology you will use a lot (Holding L, holding Q, clicking item, pressing D) into a keystroke of T for example is just common sense. This was just one (and probably the most obvious) example.

My keyboard itself can bind hotkeys and words; I use this when coding to store phrases/variables... my Professor doesn't take off points for using my own keyboard for exams/problems we have to complete in a time-frame. My mouse can auto-click just by holding one of the hex buttons on the side that I mapped. Simplicity.

Taking an alternate/easier path (being smart) isn't cheating. Geneticfrog has already proven he isn't knowledgeable so I was just helping him out.

shrimps 01-02-2015 09:59 PM

Feels cheaty to me.

geneticfrog 01-03-2015 11:47 AM

any 3rd party program to gain an edge is cheating so yes shrimp i agree hes using a form of macro to gain an advantage on era.

while he bbashes me for using a 100% legit method that THEY scripted for us LOL.

plus my method macro free 100% legit takes about 2-3 seconds to acutally save yourself so really its not like by downloading some new macro or setting up macros really saves much time.

if you do it 5 times a day omg saved 5 seconds???

WOW 5 SECONDS SAVED OMG RISK BAN TO SAVE 5seconds A DAY GENIUS ROGUE GENIUS!!! HOW ARE YOU THIS SMART OMG

Crow 01-04-2015 10:13 AM

Instead of a macro, you could just play with a controller, mapping your mouse to one of the sticks, which makes it a lot easier to still move while using your inventory. That's not cheating either, so why should a macro be? If a macro can be considered cheating, the game is flawed. Simple as that.

geneticfrog 01-04-2015 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1733744)
Instead of a macro, you could just play with a controller, mapping your mouse to one of the sticks, which makes it a lot easier to still move while using your inventory. That's not cheating either, so why should a macro be? If a macro can be considered cheating, the game is flawed. Simple as that.

so you are saying you can set squence of commands on one button on a controller ive never head of it.

since you cannot hotkey food, how do you map open invintory, select the right food in right area then somehow make it release Q so that you can now eat it on D key.

all this with one mapped key on a controller?? please tell me more lmao.

Crow 01-04-2015 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geneticfrog (Post 1733746)
so you are saying you can set squence of commands on one button on a controller ive never head of it.

In theory, yes. Use Xpadder. That's not even what I was talking about, though. Assuming I've mapped the left shoulder button to the inventory, the left analog stick to walking, the right analog stick to the mouse and the right analog button to a left mouse click, I can walk around while keeping my inventory open and moving the mouse, all at the same time. And then also click the item the mouse is over, once I've positioned it.

geneticfrog 01-04-2015 06:31 PM

sounds really sketchy and probably less efficient ive never liked controlleres for graal. I use num pad to move using 8426 2 bein my thumb so i have 4 finers on the keys at all times i get an advantage in up and down for sparring with sword. since i have 1 finger on every key already.

also cant push 2 directions at once on a controlelr so if i want to hold left right to slash in place or up and down to slash down in place while i can move left and right hugging a wall while slashing down

i cant with a controller.


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