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ilovegirlzz 12-29-2013 01:55 AM

Super elixer
 
ok killing someone with who has a super elixer should count as a kill seriously wtf is this

shrimps 12-29-2013 02:46 AM

It's nothing new, they've been around since as long as I can remember, and giving you a kill for the person using them would defeat the purpose of them in the first place.
You can only use one I think every 5 minutes anyway.

Frankie 12-29-2013 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1724620)
It's nothing new, they've been around since as long as I can remember, and giving you a kill for the person using them would defeat the purpose of them in the first place.
You can only use one I think every 5 minutes anyway.

allowing you to still get a +1 'kills' stat after someone gets revived from a super elixer doesn't defeat the purpose at all. at least in my opinion it doesn't.

ilovegirlzz 12-29-2013 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1724620)
It's nothing new, they've been around since as long as I can remember, and giving you a kill for the person using them would defeat the purpose of them in the first place.
You can only use one I think every 5 minutes anyway.

defeat the purpose? no just no.

shrimps 12-29-2013 05:25 AM

You use them, you get full heal, thus saving you a death.

ilovegirlzz 12-29-2013 09:45 AM

there more like a second life than a full heal. a full heal is a cookie
a super elixer is what it is an elixer which grants the player a second life upon dying.
since the player who is under the effect of the super elixer technically "dies" the kill should cant and so should the death,
a simple compromise would be to give the player who killed someone under this effect a kill and the guy who died would not get a death that could be a second bonus from using this ec item.

Kohola_KinG 12-29-2013 02:05 PM

You should get a kill and the player get's revived. What is wrong with that?

Dragon551 12-29-2013 05:44 PM

Actually, the player with a super elixer never actually dies. It basically just heals them when they get to 0 health and doesn't execute the whole "death" functions. This is why you get no kill or anything from killing them, they just heal when they're technically ABOUT to die.

Kohola_KinG 12-29-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1724647)
Actually, the player with a super elixer never actually dies. It basically just heals them when they get to 0 health and doesn't execute the whole "death" functions. This is why you get no kill or anything from killing them, they just heal when they're technically ABOUT to die.

Yeah we all know that but it shouldn't be that way. It's suppose to 'revive' you. Meaning, you are dead and brought back to life. If your health goes to 0 then it means you are dead...

ilovegirlzz 12-29-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1724647)
Actually, the player with a super elixer never actually dies. It basically just heals them when they get to 0 health and doesn't execute the whole "death" functions. This is why you get no kill or anything from killing them, they just heal when they're technically ABOUT to die.

well based off the urban definition of dying in gamer terms, dying is when your hp reaches 0 so the player in fact dies but is just fully healed within the second he does die soo a super elixer is basically a second chance

give the killers their kill, give the killees no death and a second life ok ezfix why are you making this so complicated?

Fiberwyre_P2P 12-29-2013 07:49 PM

Why does it matter? You think those extra kills are going to make a difference? How often do you kill someone with a super elixir?

bloodykiller 12-29-2013 08:07 PM

super elixers cost 500-1k each, you're not getting the kill because the other player spent a shitload of money to "save himself"

Kohola_KinG 12-29-2013 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1724667)
super elixers cost 500-1k each, you're not getting the kill because the other player spent a shitload of money to "save himself"

They spent a shitload of money to be revived the other player should get the kill though as they got your health to 0. Which means you died. Though i don't care, i never have a problem with it. Anytime I've came across somebody who used them they died twice anyway.

Supaman771 12-29-2013 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragon551 (Post 1724647)
Actually, the player with a super elixer never actually dies. It basically just heals them when they get to 0 health and doesn't execute the whole "death" functions. This is why you get no kill or anything from killing them, they just heal when they're technically ABOUT to die.

When I went through it (quite extensively making the witch potion, you helped me too @tacoalf) it seems that it finds a player with the elixer flag on, and at <1 health. It turns the flag off, and doesn't exactly revive them/heal them.

It effectively renders them invulnerable and sets their hp to max instantly, similar to the stasis effect of a Guardian Angel on LoL. There's a fancy display for their health and an animation of them coming back up, however this has nothing to do with what actually happens... as they never actually 'fell down' or died in terms of the system (it checks for super elixers before deaths, otherwise I don't believe they would function properly).

shrimps 12-29-2013 11:57 PM

It seems to me like somebody just want to complain about something.

cbk1994 12-30-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by bloodykiller (Post 1724667)
super elixers cost 500-1k each, you're not getting the kill because the other player spent a shitload of money to "save himself"

You're not getting the kill as a side effect of the way it's implemented in the death code. I promise you nobody actually planned it that way and it's kind of silly how much attention it's getting in this thread.

Godzilla 12-30-2013 04:08 AM

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Originally Posted by shrimps (Post 1724676)
it seems to me like somebody just want to complain about something.

+1

ilovegirlzz 12-30-2013 07:32 AM

you guys turned this into something way more than what its supposed to be..why make things more complicated than it should be.

i get ur hp to 0 i deserve a "you killed *insert name here* and receive $$"
you know what, why does we just make it where the person dies and just comes back to life same little funky animation same purpose fufilled

the description of a super elixer is: "When you die, you will be automatically revived at the same location without having to go to the hospital. 6 ECs for 2 Super Elixirs."

ok i believe the word "die" is in the description so fix this problem.

thank you

salesman 12-31-2013 04:47 AM

Just change the description...problem solved.

ilovegirlzz 12-31-2013 05:35 PM

wow you people are seriously childish and stubborn there is no type of reasoning with any of you

BlueMelon 01-01-2014 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ilovegirlzz (Post 1724753)
wow you people are seriously childish and stubborn there is no type of reasoning with any of you

#era

Zongui 01-01-2014 03:21 AM

i remember when bounty hunters could buy elixers.


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