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EclipsedAngel 02-09-2010 11:11 PM

setting up UDP again.
 
Ok so I set my modem to bridge mode, and I made my router open to port 14922
but it's still not working.

I forgot how I set this up.

The IP that's given to my computer for my router is 192.168.2.2 so I set the IP to that.

Inbound port and private port are both 14922. Type set to UDP.

I saw a page on graalonline.com that shows all the ports used on graal, but I forgot it. It was like 14xxx-15xxx or something.

When I get my UDP to work. If I open up 2 clients, my 2 character's x and y positions should be the same, and the characters will appear to overlap eachother, sharing the same X Y position, but instead the characters are frozen.

Hiro 02-10-2010 01:58 AM

the correct port is 14899

EclipsedAngel 02-10-2010 02:35 AM

I put it on that and it works thanks

Hiro 02-10-2010 06:36 AM

i'm glad that was the problem and not something more complex (:

EclipsedAngel 02-17-2010 05:04 AM

It still messes up a lot and I get errors. There really needs to be a more efficient UDP system on graal.

Hiro 02-17-2010 06:42 AM

i also get frequent UDP errors regardless of how correct my settings appear to be

EclipsedAngel 02-22-2010 07:53 AM

hopefully it will be updated but I doubt it.

EclipsedAngel 04-11-2010 01:14 AM

I've done everything to try to unblock the port but it's not working anymore.

When I enable UDP, all the other people using UDP can't see me anymore but I can see them. Why is this happening?

This is what I got on my router

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5650/ports.png

DustyPorViva 04-11-2010 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipsedAngel (Post 1568410)
I've done everything to try to unblock the port but it's not working anymore.

When I enable UDP, all the other people using UDP can't see me anymore but I can see them. Why is this happening?

This is what I got on my router

http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/5650/ports.png

Change the port in Graal to something else and try that?

EclipsedAngel 04-11-2010 01:34 AM

What's the range of ports that graal uses?

EclipsedAngel 04-11-2010 01:39 AM

Graal is being real stubborn and I tried everything. I tried unblocking my firewalls and it still doesn't work so I guess I give up.

I'm really annoyed by this though. Like I said 100 times before, you guys need to rescript the UDP connection system.

cbk1994 04-11-2010 01:41 AM

What's the advantage to UDP anyway?

EclipsedAngel 04-11-2010 01:43 AM

Faster connection because UDP doesn't have to check info to make sure the packets aren't malformed. I think it's direct connection too basically.

I like using microphone sometimes too.
A few weeks back I heard some people on microphone so it works to some extent sometimes.
It seems to really give me trouble when I'm on a DSL connection.

DustyPorViva 04-11-2010 01:59 AM

Sadly either my modem or my Apartment complex(who I 'rent' internet from) block ports for me -_- Pretty much ALL ports are blocked, and forwarding ports with my router accomplishes nothing. :(

cbk1994 04-11-2010 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1568425)
Sadly either my modem or my Apartment complex(who I 'rent' internet from) block ports for me -_- Pretty much ALL ports are blocked, and forwarding ports with my router accomplishes nothing. :(

Sounds more like a double NAT issue.

EclipsedAngel 04-11-2010 10:13 PM

When I had cable it seemed to work just fine. I always have problems with it when I'm on DSL.

fowlplay4 04-11-2010 10:18 PM

UDP may be removed in the next client, js.

SKJF91 04-12-2010 01:07 AM

Upnp?!

EclipsedAngel 04-12-2010 02:44 AM

As well as microphone use?

fowlplay4 04-12-2010 03:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipsedAngel (Post 1568591)
As well as microphone use?

I guess so.

cbk1994 04-12-2010 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568602)
I guess so.

Would be awesome if Graal had built-in Ventrilo-like voice communication. Each server can create channels under their set, otherwise there would be global ones. Only problem is that it would be virtually impossible to have someone there all the time moderating it.

Seeya 04-12-2010 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1568617)
Would be awesome if Graal had built-in Ventrilo-like voice communication. Each server can create channels under their set, otherwise there would be global ones. Only problem is that it would be virtually impossible to have someone there all the time moderating it.

omfg this

Demisis_P2P 04-12-2010 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1568617)
Would be awesome if Graal had built-in Ventrilo-like voice communication. Each server can create channels under their set, otherwise there would be global ones. Only problem is that it would be virtually impossible to have someone there all the time moderating it.

Nobody moderates the current voice chat so why would they need to moderate a more useful version of voice chat?
If people don't like what they're hearing they can vote to kick somebody from the channel, or leave themselves.

SKJF91 04-12-2010 08:04 AM

Graal provides the ability to mute people

EclipsedAngel 04-12-2010 10:37 AM

So I exclude my router and UDP works. I've done everything with that piece of crap and it still doesn't work.

Last thing I can think of is calling customer service on my router.

cbk1994 04-12-2010 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1568652)
Nobody moderates the current voice chat so why would they need to moderate a more useful version of voice chat?
If people don't like what they're hearing they can vote to kick somebody from the channel, or leave themselves.

are you serious?

Demisis_P2P 04-12-2010 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1568678)
are you serious?

I'm ****ing serious.

Why would it suddenly become a requirement to have people who sits in the voice chat channels all day listening to everything everybody says and punishing people for talking about vaginas or drugs when you don't have somebody who sits on RC all day skimming every line of chat and PMs and punishing people for the same thing there?

People that want to talk about that stuff are going to do it, no matter how many poorly defined chat filter rules you make. They're just going to use V's instead of U's and @'s instead of A's.
You just have to trust that the people who don't want to hear/read that stuff are smart enough to not read it, or mute the people talking about it.

Crono 04-12-2010 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568551)
UDP may be removed in the next client, js.

that's pretty stupid

fowlplay4 04-12-2010 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1568694)
that's pretty stupid

Why? Only a minuscule percentage of the playercount actually use it or know it's actually there.

As for a vent-similar chat, as long as you can mute it'll be fine.

Crono 04-12-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568706)
Why? Only a minuscule percentage of the playercount actually use it or know it's actually there.

Try sparring.

EclipsedAngel 04-12-2010 09:59 PM

Does anybody here have a belkin router?

Old_Days 04-12-2010 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1568617)
Would be awesome if Graal had built-in Ventrilo-like voice communication. Each server can create channels under their set, otherwise there would be global ones. Only problem is that it would be virtually impossible to have someone there all the time moderating it.

Wonder if my vent crashing programs I found would work on it :p

Trak 04-13-2010 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EclipsedAngel (Post 1568811)
Does anybody here have a belkin router?

Me.

fowlplay4 04-13-2010 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old_Days (Post 1568827)
Wonder if my vent crashing programs I found would work on it :p

It wouldn't because it wouldn't be a ventrilo server.

Rufus 04-13-2010 05:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568706)
Why? Only a minuscule percentage of the playercount actually use it or know it's actually there.

UN's Current Playercount: 69
Has UDP option checked: 39 (57%)
Has UDP option unchecked: 30 (43%)

:confused:

fowlplay4 04-13-2010 05:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1568943)
UN's Current Playercount: 69
Has UDP option checked: 39
Has UDP option unchecked: 30

:confused:

Zodiac's Current: 48 - RCs (6) = 42
No UDP: 39
Using UDP: 3

Seems pretty minuscule to me, I guess UN has just used the mic feature more than others.

Demisis_P2P 04-13-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568944)
Zodiac's Current: 48 - RCs (6) = 42
No UDP: 39
Using UDP: 3

Seems pretty minuscule to me, I guess UN has just used the mic feature more than others.

It's mostly for sparring, not for mic.

I'm actually surprised more people on Zodiac don't use the mic since it would actually make sense there in party play. Saying "buff please" over mic is much quicker and easier than stopping what you're doing and typing "buff please"

DustyPorViva 04-13-2010 07:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P (Post 1568955)
It's mostly for sparring, not for mic.

I'm actually surprised more people on Zodiac don't use the mic since it would actually make sense there in party play. Saying "buff please" over mic is much quicker and easier than stopping what you're doing and typing "buff please"

Except no one keeps Graal sounds on :P Also, can anyone understand anything said over Graal mic?

Hiro 04-13-2010 08:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1568956)
Except no one keeps Graal sounds on :P Also, can anyone understand anything said over Graal mic?

i remember there being dance parties on graal where people would stream music over the mics, and it sounded good


in relation to the thread, i've found that prior to logging on graal, using the "PFPortChecker by PortForward dot com" and checking to see if port 14899 for UDP is open and then logging on makes UDP work, assuming you can get the port open

Crono 04-13-2010 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fowlplay4 (Post 1568944)
Zodiac's Current: 48 - RCs (6) = 42
No UDP: 39
Using UDP: 3

Seems pretty minuscule to me, I guess UN has just used the mic feature more than others.

I just ****ing said try sparring. Graal's default movement/fighting system is effected by UDP/TCP. When using TCP players will appear more jumpy and thus be harder to hit, while two clients using UDP will be silky smooth to eachother. This doesn't really matter on Zodiac so it's no wonder no one cares. Also probably why everyone there is so skippy compared to players on UN, makes melee fighting worse.


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