Universal Graal v5 for Mac
How long? Last I heard it would be very soon, but that was like 6 months ago. As far as I know it's not even started :( The scripted RC was a step in the right direction for Graal for Mac, but there's no use if it doesn't run well enough to use.
Thanks, Chris Zakuto |
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I think he is talkin about gettin it to run on an powerpc based mac.
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It runs on PowerPC (WAY outdated).
It runs on Intel, but it runs SO slowly, and crashes so much, it's impossible to play. As for software like Crossover, VMware Fusion, and Paralells, I have tried all of those, and none of them work with Graal (DirectX problems). I would actually move to Mac if an online tile editor was released, and a certain feautre to client RC was added. |
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Anytime I'm on Linux, I'm able to get the level editor to work with Wine. |
The problem is that Cyberjoueurs do not currently have an Intel Mac to compile a Universal (or Intel) binary on, and they won't just hand out the source code for others to compile it. I guess eventually there will be a Universal binary, just not yet.
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If they're saying cost is a problem, then get one and run Windows on it! If you get a MacBook for $1k, then you also get Windows virtually free! And linux! Kill THREE stones with $1000 instead of around $3000 to buy 3 separate computers. I'm really sick of them putting off Mac, and they keep showing some weird statistic that like 99% of people use Windows to play Graal ... which is because it's nearly impossible to play Graal on a Mac, especially an Intel one. I'll tape a video and show what Graal is like on my Intel mac and then post it. |
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It's not as simple as just to "go out and buy one"; Cyberjoueurs have a budget, and they have expenditures already. I'm sure I don't need to explain the model of a business to you further than that. |
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If they released an Intel Mac version of Graal, I would renew all of my subscriptions. Currently I only have one for playerworlds (developing), but I'd play GK, etc again if I could. Maybe they could make friends with some of the nice people down at Apple HQ? Slip the gal at the Genius Bar a $20 (I guess they probably don't have too many of those in France?) |
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I demand Graal for my z/OS system because I deserve it, dammit!
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You need to start with an opening tag before the closing tag ;) |
News: Compiled a version for Intel Mac, runs fast :) Resizing of the window doesn't work yet (leopard problem?) but it should be fixed before the release of the next Graal version.
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THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! WHEN WILL THIS GODLY VERSION OF GRAAL FOR MAC BE RELEASED? WITH THE NEXT CLIENT RELEASE? |
Ah finally. I have no mac, but its only fair as the windows version and linux version run quite decent :O
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I have made a new signature image, just for Universal Graal :)
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yay...now i just need an intel processor...
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Always with the Intel Macs you developers are interested in.
Well done however :) |
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You should post them :D, because I have a Mac myself.
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A few: -Monster at login does not show up, just a moving shadow. -Immediatley on login server, text at the top (subscription info and server info) overlaps. -After video recording, Graal completely freezes. Focus flashes. Player cannot move. Cannot see others move. Have to restart Graal. -On UN (havent tried other classic servers at all), the 'S', 'D', etc inside the red things in the top-left GUI does not show. -The red tiles glitch is appearing again. -ALT+2 is not taking screenshots, or the window is not coming up. -The glitch where you keep walking a certain way seems to appear a lot, I'm not sure why. I can't find any way to repeatedly get it to happen. That's all I've noticed so far. Basically a bunch of really small ones. But like I said, it is extremely fast. EDIT: Also, when sitting on a seat in UN spar, you can hit 'S' and it will change your gani to idle for a moment, then back to sit. I have tried, and it does not actually hurt anyone. |
Ooh, interesting - hopefully Stefan can fix all of these. Wait...
Hell, I know he can. |
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Also, noticed that the chat bar does not seem to have an outline. Just a red blob, no yellow outline or anything. |
Blobs are awesome.
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Also, if you have an Intel Mac, you may try talking to Stefan. He told me something along the lines of if anyone is interested in bug testing, talk to him. |
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Yes there seem to be some problems with Shift/Ctrl key stucking other keys.
The problem with the start screen and chat bar happens because I've not added the normal bundled files, if you copy the Graal.app to a normal graal installation then it should be fine. Red tiles problem also confirmed. |
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Also, updated info on the taking movies glitch -- it appears not to erase the old screen for some reason. You can see it flashing between what it was when you stopped recording, and what it is now. If you go to another level, it will flash between that level & the level where you stopped recording. If you press ALT+2, it then updates it, so you see yourself where you were when you pressed it. Very strange glitch. |
Here is my bug report for the external windows.
Graal for Mac (Intel) with External Windows Bug Report 3/1/08 Chris Zakuto (cbk1994) 1. Window titles do not show up in external windows. 2. In scripted RC, many times once you load a window once and then close it, it will never reappear. This also happens with the F2 window. Also, sometimes after a lot of opening/closing of playerlist, this will happen. 3. If you are scripting, if you click into client, then back into the scripting window and try to move around, etc there are some glitches. It may show your cursor at one position, but when you type, you are typing in a different position. 4. If you open the playerlist, you cannot close it by clicking F7 unless you click back into the client. 5. A lot of the time, you cannot right click in the playerlist. However, middle clicking (scroll button) acts as right click. 6. In playerlist, it will sometimes show a PM icon on the wrong player. Hope this helps get rid of some bugs. |
We've already fixed the window titles. I've also experienced the problem of windows not reopening once they are closed, will check that.
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*bump*
Can I get a copy of that? :o Also RC no longer runs under Wine. It depends on IMM32.DLL which is windows XP only and does not work with Wine native libraries. |
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I think Stefan has enough testers for the new version.
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What I really want is a native version of the RC.
Personally the scripted rc might be better if rendered on an external window but what's this I hear of file uploading not working properly @ filename case? Also if you wanted to give me the protocol definition for rc/nc I could whip up an RC in Objective-C PDQ :P (NO, NOT RUBY I'M NOT LORIEL) (PDQ = Pretty Darn Quick) |
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Does that windowblinds theme stuff still work with graal? might be interesting to see if that will work on os X :D
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Yes the gui styles work fine in the new version, it can now display several gui styles (wba files) at once, so servers can mix styles if wanted.
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