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Inverness 07-28-2008 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Kez (Post 1409243)
@Inverness: No one has to get classic. Servers that are already classic will benefit from using your scripts without knowing anything about how they work, and do it without your permission.

If they benefit from it and bring more people to Graal then good for them. And then the globals would love me because I'm helping bring more people to Graal for them to rule over with an iron fist.

And there isn't a classic server that exists now that could use my scripts without having to modify them for the server. Which means they would have to learn how the script works and modify it.

The_Kez 07-28-2008 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1409247)
If they benefit from it and bring more people to Graal then good for them. And then the globals would love me because I'm helping bring more people to Graal for them to rule over with an iron fist.

And there isn't a classic server that exists now that could use my scripts without having to modify them for the server. Which means they would have to learn how the script works and modify it.

At your first point: That is not to say everyone is competing for the love of global admins.

At your second point: That is not to say other servers don't have scripts which are easily usable simply by copy/paste.

Inverness 07-28-2008 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by The_Kez (Post 1409248)
At your first point: That is not to say everyone is competing for the love of global admins.

I'm not either, that was a joke. Did you think otherwise?
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Originally Posted by The_Kez (Post 1409248)
At your second point: That is not to say other servers don't have scripts which are easily usable simply by copy/paste.

If the script can work with a simple copy/paste then its probably something that should be open source anyways.

LoneAngelIbesu 07-28-2008 05:11 AM

If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

Inverness 07-28-2008 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1409253)
If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

They would if they wanted their server to be unique enough to go classic.

Loriel 07-28-2008 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneAngelIbesu (Post 1409253)
If all scripts on all servers are open source, then they wouldn't need to modify anything to get a custom system working.

Making playerworld creation easier is a good thing.

cbk1994 07-28-2008 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1409302)
Making playerworld creation easier is a good thing.

Sure, but the current problem is that there are too many servers.

As I've been trying to say, servers that are extremely organized and have a dev team before even starting the server should not have to suffer because someone else decides to make a server with no dev team and expects others to make it for them.

Anyone should be allowed to have their own server, but they can't expect that it will go anywhere unless they can get a dev team. It's always good to have your server planned out before buying the server.

Rufus 07-28-2008 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1409337)
As I've been trying to say, servers that are extremely organized and have a dev team before even starting the server should not have to suffer because someone else decides to make a server with no dev team and expects others to make it for them.

How would they suffer?

cbk1994 07-28-2008 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1409338)
How would they suffer?

Players would go to the other server, and the original server would have less players.

Rufus 07-28-2008 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1409339)
Players would go to the other server, and the original server would have less players.

You would expect that an extremely organized server, with an abundance of development staff would always have a major advantage over a server with no organization or staff, right?

Loriel 07-28-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1409337)
Sure, but the current problem is that there are too many servers.

That is not really a problem. The problem is that all of them suck.

All scripts being available to everyone else does not mean that you get away without development teams. That is a pretty silly conclusion.

cbk1994 07-28-2008 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1409340)
You would expect that an extremely organized server, with an abundance of development staff would always have a major advantage over a server with no organization or staff, right?

Yes, but that doesn't mean they need the competition of their own content on another server.
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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1409341)
That is not really a problem. The problem is that all of them suck.

All scripts being available to everyone else does not mean that you get away without development teams. That is a pretty silly conclusion.

A good server wouldn't, but some servers would just copy and paste exactly from a server.

Loriel 07-28-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1409342)
A good server wouldn't, but some servers would just copy and paste exactly from a server.

It is not going to hurt anyone if they do that.

cbk1994 07-28-2008 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Loriel (Post 1409344)
It is not going to hurt anyone if they do that.

Yes it will, it will hurt the original server.

Rufus 07-28-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1409342)
Yes, but that doesn't mean they need the competition of their own content on another server.

You're assuming that servers reusing scripts would be carbon copies of the servers that the scripts are from, and while that might be true in some cases, that is not why it is being suggested. Servers which copy Era for example are scripting the same systems, in the exact same way, but they're never going to be accepted into the mainstream server list as they lack originality, thus not creating much competition at all. What it does create is a push for creativity and originality, and in the majority of servers and on Graal as a whole this is very much needed.

If a server like Graal2001 for instance wanted to use the car script Era has for their Go-Karts event, I do not see how this is going to hurt Era at all, because borrowing or not the Karts are going to be scripted. Time is saved, and it would not be creating competition from Era's own content, because it is not Era's content.


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