Since this thread is all about anecdotes and stipulation, I'll respectfully skip the part about proving you wrong.
Instead, I'll settle by alleging that Elk is a better community member than you.

lets not get this thread closed.

Elks a good guy, so is dean.

Shame CJ couldn't handle the last thread title.

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You are completely and absolutely wrong.

It is CJ's own fault for what state Graal is in now. Graal is a game. It's not a development platform, it's not a hosting service, it's a game. Sure, it can be used as such but it's not what it's intended and marketed to be.

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sorry crono but ur wrong its more a development platform then a game :P thats why you have stuffs like the level editor, gani editor and playerworld renting ect.

Just because it's failing as a game does not change the fact that it's just that; a game that people pay to play.

1 - 0 to me dont be mean you will win next time maybe x_x

What? You're almost as wrong as Elk is.

some of your posts confuse me....

btw why was the thread title renamed as hmmmmm and then Low Playercount xD

hehe... oh dear crono, what makes you so sure? not that I bothered to read what elk said as his evil (sometimes), but at least to me graal seems more like a development platform then a game as the servers with most players are playerworlds and the content for the "official" servers (with like no players btw) are made by the few players that plays it...

Don't make me repeat myself over and over, please, this isn't a matter of opinion.

just coz you repeat yourself over and over doesn't make you right :P

http://www.eurocenter.fr/lang-en/products

think its leaning towards the gaming platform thingy tho :P

You can make Runescape servers, that does not make it a development platform.

Graal's not even mentioned on that site.

Yes but on graal you can make it into whatever you want not just a clone of the original server (you can use your own graphics, sounds ect), and even 3d w/e they decide to release it.

I'm sure its the graal engine that they call "QuattroPlay".

It does when my point is correct.

This doesn't prove me wrong. I already said it can be used as such, but it's not what it's created to be nor is it what they market it (Graal) as.

Graal is an "M"MORPG with an extra ability to upload player content. I cannot believe anyone would attempt to disagree. Then again you don't even play Graal anymore, so I don't really blame you.

Then why is it advertised as a game?

No I dont play graal anymore (cant think of ANY other game that I have played for 8 years tho) I do however like developing on it.

But its kind of odd that the "extra ability" is the majority of graal, as they only advertise graal kingdoms as an mmorpg.

The majority of Graal are not developers or developing, they are normal players. The servers are playermade, yes, but that doesn't affect what I had said before.

No, but the majority of graal depend on the player developed content, if you took away the possibility of using it as a game engine you would been stuck with:

- Graal Classic
- Graal 2001
- Graal kingdoms

So yes its a game but its also a development platform and its not just a small "extra ability" :)

This is why I say it's failing as a game, because it relies too heavily on player submitted content. But just because player submitted content is keeping Graal alive doesn't change what Graal is.

http://www.quantcast.com/profile/tra...&dtr=dm&dty=pp
Welcome to school.

Yes a zelda clone development platform with hosting possibilities :D

No, a game with development & hosting possibilities. People don't register to develop, they register to play. The sooner CJ sees this the sooner Graal will stop dying.

thallen ftw

yea like back in 2000.

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When it actually was a game right now its more like Torque but with server hosting in my eyes (which i think is great for all of us noob devers :))

I think they should start selling the engine to interested (and good) game developers and make some deal so they also host the games for them, then im sure they would make some money and we would perhaps have some quality servers to play on
besides our noob servers that is most likely a ripoff of some popular game with corrupt immature staffs and photoshop filtered classic graphics :D

Wow, Elk, you have no clue, do you?

HAHAHAHAHA... so clever!

Hehe xD I know right

I can't read all of the posts, there are way too many lol,
but Graal isn't dieing, Stefan is way too intelligent to just let it die,

BUT I LOVE THAT IMAGE :[

:rolleyes:

Graal will most likely be definitely dead in 2 years or so.

With that kind of attitude, it's no surprise.

If you are so sure about that, can you tell me why you didn't run away from graal ? You should already be playing something else, but I guess it's because you still hope for something to happen that you stay. Long life to you.

I don't think so.

I haven't played graal for a good two years, I just stopped by the forums to troll some.

Prove me wrong.

First, which is it? Most likely or definitely? :D

Both.
At the same time ;^.

Prove him wrong.

Everyone said Graal was going to die the next year or two back in 2001... that was nearly 8 years ago. It has then come up every year since.