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Tim_Rocks 09-05-2014 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1730831)
I would use the internal one more if it operated more like the external one.. same look and feel but with the added features the internal one has and a few others it does not have.
The problem I have here is you can't troubleshoot/fix issues with your server using the clientside RC. If your server crashes, or experiences any sort of delay, it makes using the clientside RC a huge pain to get anything done. At the moment, I wouldn't use the client RC for anything more than a chat window.

scriptless 09-05-2014 05:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1730832)
The problem I have here is you can't troubleshoot/fix issues with your server using the clientside RC. If your server crashes, or experiences any sort of delay, it makes using the clientside RC a huge pain to get anything done. At the moment, I wouldn't use the client RC for anything more than a chat window.
You mean if you cannot connect to your server on player you wouldn't be able to use rc on it? That would be a good point and maybe it can be expanded to allow it, not sure on it's limitations really.

Cubical 09-05-2014 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1730832)
The problem I have here is you can't troubleshoot/fix issues with your server using the clientside RC. If your server crashes, or experiences any sort of delay, it makes using the clientside RC a huge pain to get anything done. At the moment, I wouldn't use the client RC for anything more than a chat window.
Not to mention... reconnects and client reboots.

Tim_Rocks 09-05-2014 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by scriptless (Post 1730833)
You mean if you cannot connect to your server on player you wouldn't be able to use rc on it? That would be a good point and maybe it can be expanded to allow it, not sure on it's limitations really.
The fact that every server experiences a decent amount of lag is enough for me to never use client RC as a developers tool. I don't like interruptions, and as Cubical said, disconnections play a big role in that as well. I don't wanna write a few lines of code only to have it erased due to a disconnect.

scriptless 09-05-2014 09:56 PM
Maybe since it's a global script it can be made to not close your script. So that it handles disconnects the same way as external rc disconnects.

Rave_J 09-06-2014 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by callimuc (Post 1730480)
That's the way mine is working :)
I weather see them just update the offline level editor.

The online level editor tools is no good, I hate them I cant stand them.. With this lag that graal has it would be a nightmare.

There slow and i can do much more so much faster then you could with a online level editor.

I don't care so much about the level editor having gs2 because you can still code in gs2 on there for levels. I just fill just dropping the gani editor, level editor all those programs would be a mistake...

scriptless 09-06-2014 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1730848)
I weather see them just update the offline level editor.

The online level editor tools is no good, I hate them I cant stand them.. With this lag that graal has it would be a nightmare. Besides a scripted editor could be client side and independent of being connected to the server as long as your able to access either login server

There slow and i can do much more so much faster then you could with a online level editor.

I don't care so much about the level editor having gs2 because you can still code in gs2 on there for levels. I just fill just dropping the gani editor, level editor all those programs would be a mistake...
I use a mac. Updating the editor would require cross platform for it to even interest me.

Tim_Rocks 09-06-2014 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1730848)
I weather see them just update the offline level editor.

The online level editor tools is no good, I hate them I cant stand them.. With this lag that graal has it would be a nightmare.

There slow and i can do much more so much faster then you could with a online level editor.

I don't care so much about the level editor having gs2 because you can still code in gs2 on there for levels. I just fill just dropping the gani editor, level editor all those programs would be a mistake...
The online level editor and gani editor work great and do far more than their offline counter parts. I'm not going to lie or anything. It is a bit different and takes a little bit to get used to, but it is better in the end (unless you get disconnected).

Rave_J 09-07-2014 12:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim_Rocks (Post 1730851)
The online level editor and gani editor work great and do far more than their offline counter parts. I'm not going to lie or anything. It is a bit different and takes a little bit to get used to, but it is better in the end (unless you get disconnected).
They can easily update the level editor and gani editor offline, I think just having to buy a server to learn how to dev is the wrong direction. At least offline dev tools give people to learn how to dev without buying a server or work for someone.

Its like Graal want you to put a down payment to learn how to dev on gral tools to make them money.

scriptless 09-07-2014 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Rave_J (Post 1730863)
They can easily update the level editor and gani editor offline, I think just having to buy a server to learn how to dev is the wrong direction. At least offline dev tools give people to learn how to dev without buying a server or work for someone.

Its like Graal want you to put a down payment to learn how to dev on gral tools to make them money.
How about since callimuc's editor could easily work exactly like FP4's gani editor and save files offline too you know.

FP4's editor doesn't force you to have a server, or even be staff, to use it. Just login Zodiac and type the command for it.. =/ The reason they went to scripted is because it provides cross platform ease. Things will then work the same on any os.. it makes a lot more sense then trying to update the external one.


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