i learned alot from loriel, he a tuff guy ^^ ^^

I am to agree with Loriel, I don't see why the playerworlds are not open source. I'd do it for Era even though the scripts are poor.

No, because I'm a scripter and I'm already interested in learning to script as I have been since the early GS1 days. I'm saying there are a lot of players on graal interesting in creating a server who are not interested in learning to script, but more interested in leeching scripts and asking others to do all of their work for them. That has been well known for a long time.

That's your point of view at least. So how do you know they're not interested in learning to script exactly?

I know I learned to script by getting my hands on already done scripts acquired through questionable means. At least that's how I started off.

I'm not saying there are no people who want to learn to script. For those people open source is a good idea, but to say EVERY script uploaded to every server should be open source is unfair to creators of servers who want their scripts to remain theirs and not be copy/pasted to private servers by players who don't want to do any of there own work.

I believe Skyld just temporarily banned an account from this forum called GULTHEX for asking to script help in 6 different forum topics, and you could see by the treads he created and the content in them that he could not have been less interested in learning, he was only interested in taking scripts and copy/pasting them into his server, if he could even be bothered to figure out how to do that.

Who cares? If its a private server its not like its going to go Classic if its just a clone of another server or if its just patch worked together with scripts from different places that don't even work together.

If the server were to gain enough quality and uniqueness to go Classic then I highly doubt the scripts will even look like what they were when they were originally taken from elsewhere.
He was just banned for making so many topics.

Then propose your own. This isn't a mandatory project. This is a voluntary project that Cali wanted to do. You've scripted many things that some people think are useless, need I remind you? ;)

If that wasn't an honest-to-god fact, then it wouldn't be against the rules to ask for complete scripts.

What about Valikorlia? We're in the process of making these things. If somebody were allowed to take our scripts, and they finished it before we did, then all the work you've done was pointless. It's called stealing. It's immoral and cheap.

IF it is a private server. There have been enough cases of classic servers stealing from other classic servers already without everything becomming open source. And I doubt the PW admins are going to want the job of policing every single script taken from one classic server and going to another one with tiny insignificant little changes. And I doubt the staff are going to want the job of contacting a PW admin every time they find their script on someone elses server.

There is a code gallery for open source scripts.

No, if they were allowed to take your scripts, it would not be called stealing. ;)

I didn't become active in the community until long after that.

Lets allow stealing in real life. No one would be able to steal if there was no law against it.
It's just as rediculous when it comes to open source playerworlds.

Try that again without the retarded misspelling and I might pay attention.

Translation: I have no veritable rebuttal.

Stealing is stealing under any other name. :) Forcing all servers to make their systems open-source is a death sentence. If servers were businesses, then their systems would be their trade secrets. You force a business to reveal their trade secrets, then you remove any security that kept that business propped up.

It is not stealing anyway because the moment you upload anything to Graal, it does not belong to you anymore and Graal can do whatever it ****ing wants with it.

man these open source companies must be really stupid then

It can do whatever it wants with it. We're saying what the most logical thing for them to do with it is, and that is to keep it closed source.