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GarethOmni 01-13-2010 02:56 AM

I have a few Event Suggestions:
For ULMS, Make it have a 30 second delay for those that say leave. So basically someone that says leave has to wait 30 seconds to click the warper and get back into the event.
This would also be handy to discourage people leaving when a spar event is starting up so that they get paired with people that wont own them.

Another option for ULMS would be to have an option that automatically denicks gang or business tagged individuals while in an event level.
ULMS isn't very fun/fair when there are 7 gang members going against 4-5 others in the level.

Venom_Fish 01-13-2010 04:35 AM

Well, I wouldn't do the tags thing, since sometimes its kind of fun to fight the gangs. Its ULMS after all, and there's no prize. The leaving thing is a problem though.

Dnegel 01-13-2010 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by GarethOmni (Post 1550061)
I have a few Event Suggestions:
For ULMS, Make it have a 30 second delay for those that say leave. So basically someone that says leave has to wait 30 seconds to click the warper and get back into the event.
This would also be handy to discourage people leaving when a spar event is starting up so that they get paired with people that wont own them.

Why haven't this been brought up before?!

swift 01-14-2010 06:59 AM

Lets see event coins used for something more useful then just ammo for the weapons that were stocked 1 time in the event shop and then removed forever. (flak, bow, flame thrower, lightsaber). In my opinion, don't even put weapon type items in the event shop unless they will be restocked daily. It's like a race for the first 300 ecs to buy the 1 flak cannon that will be released so you can make it priceless.

Also I like the idea of adding more groups and organizations that promote PKing. Like Ninja, Bounty Hunter, PPA, EIA, Era Police. ect ect. But please.. absolutely under no circumstances, no special tag locked weapons.

Players just wanna join things like these for the special over powered weapons.

The business makes money, have a secret base, and have their own outfit and usually some kind of grab hat. They don't need an overpowered that the leader gets to "distribute" to pals. If they want something like that, they can force their members to use a certain gun that's already released on Era.

Kenshin851 01-14-2010 08:38 AM

From a previous post I had, on a different thread, posting it on here too since it's a suggestion.

Ehhh the things I have thought of..

Bring back Era Police, temporary 5 minute jails if your on a gang tag and get killed by a cop.. Make the Police a raidable shop, Make it almost like a gang with a little authority ya know? So if a gang gets raided by cops their fellow members can raid the Cops base and break them out.. then they can hold down the cops base.. Raiding.. for a reason?

Moveable furniture.. This can be taken 2 ways.. people could use it for laming.. Or for another idea which is blocking the safe.. Which I'll get to.

Bring in racketeering.. For NPC shops or Player ran shops.. doesn't matter.. but all the money the gang makes from it goes to their safe.. They have to defend the safe from raiding gangs who are trying to break into their stash..

DarkReaper0 01-15-2010 06:01 AM

A Fight Club.

swift 01-16-2010 07:08 AM

Lets see the /sethat command usable by the public after the reset.
Add an upload option where you can upload your own hats, and make them personal.
example: era_personal_swift-hat2.gif

Better yet, make it public on current Era.

Dnegel 01-16-2010 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by swift (Post 1550628)
Lets see the /sethat command usable by the public after the reset.
Add an upload option where you can upload your own hats, and make them personal.
example: era_personal_swift-hat2.gif

Better yet, make it public on current Era.

Like it was before!

I second this!

Frankie 01-16-2010 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by swift (Post 1550628)
Lets see the /sethat command usable by the public after the reset.
Add an upload option where you can upload your own hats, and make them personal.
example: era_personal_swift-hat2.gif

Better yet, make it public on current Era.

I don't know. I agree with this, but disagree at the same time. I think it's a little ridiculous that hats are such sacred items. but then again, they are one of the few things that can give a player a unique look. I wouldn't want a bunch of idiots running around with the same purple aviators that I have.

swift 01-16-2010 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1550655)
I don't know. I agree with this, but disagree at the same time. I think it's a little ridiculous that hats are such sacred items. but then again, they are one of the few things that can give a player a unique look. I wouldn't want a bunch of idiots running around with the same purple aviators that I have.


That's why there would be personal hats, and they are basically just like bodies, heads, or shields. People make their own unique styles.

Frankie 01-18-2010 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by swift (Post 1550696)
That's why there would be personal hats, and they are basically just like bodies, heads, or shields. People make their own unique styles.

what good are personal hats if you can just take the image, re-name it, and have PRs upload it?

cbk1994 01-18-2010 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Frankie (Post 1551009)
what good are personal hats if you can just take the image, re-name it, and have PRs upload it?

We can do the same thing we do for heads (we have a system that automatically checks for duplicate personal head uploads) but it's no good if they change the format, re-export it, make a small modification like a pixel, ...

Liberated 01-18-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551011)
We can do the same thing we do for heads (we have a system that automatically checks for duplicate personal head uploads) but it's no good if they change the format, re-export it, make a small modification like a pixel, ...

maybe it can check for like a % match? I mean if even 50% matches that's already quite alot.

cbk1994 01-18-2010 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Liberated (Post 1551039)
maybe it can check for like a % match? I mean if even 50% matches that's already quite alot.

It's not quite that simple. The way it works is that it looks for heads with the exact same file size (down to the byte) from a list of corresponding head paths and file sizes. If it matches, it's most likely a duplicate. However, there are rare cases where there are two heads with the same file size, so it also compares the contents with a string check.

Changing this to actually load every file, parse it as a PNG/GIF/MNG, then compare each pixel would be nearly impossible and definitely not worth the effort (except maybe for experience in programming, I guess).

12171217 01-18-2010 05:58 PM

There's no need to do all that, simply parse the file's contents out, byte for byte, and generate a hash, then compare hashes. Of course merely changing a pixel or adding some header information would **** you over, but whatever.

Alternatively, you could sample a certain coordinates for the head, like where it faces down, and store the RGBA values with a threshold to permit. Then compare a few pixels aganist each other, only 32x32x3 bytes to parse if you do them all anyway, wouldn't take that long.

Old_Days 01-18-2010 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1551076)
There's no need to do all that, simply parse the file's contents out, byte for byte, and generate a hash, then compare hashes. Of course merely changing a pixel or adding some header information would **** you over, but whatever.

Alternatively, you could sample a certain coordinates for the head, like where it faces down, and store the RGBA values with a threshold to permit. Then compare a few pixels aganist each other, only 32x32x3 bytes to parse if you do them all anyway, wouldn't take that long.

How about english? Not all of us are brainiacs.

12171217 01-18-2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Old_Days (Post 1551093)
How about english? Not all of us are brainiacs.

Well I typed it for the sake of people who do understand, so maybe they can implement it :p

CharlieM 01-18-2010 11:02 PM

problem with auto checking is there could be something that someone took from there head and put on a friends head that took up maybe 50% of the head, so if it checked by pixel it would come up as stolen wouldnt it?

12171217 01-18-2010 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1551132)
problem with auto checking is there could be something that someone took from there head and put on a friends head that took up maybe 50% of the head, so if it checked by pixel it would come up as stolen wouldnt it?

Hmm.. If I'm not mistaken, that's called stealing.

What you could do, though, is if you want somebody to make a remake of your head or whatever, you can password your head and give them the password, perhaps, or something along the lines of that.

cbk1994 01-19-2010 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12171217 (Post 1551076)
There's no need to do all that, simply parse the file's contents out, byte for byte, and generate a hash, then compare hashes. Of course merely changing a pixel or adding some header information would **** you over, but whatever.

Alternatively, you could sample a certain coordinates for the head, like where it faces down, and store the RGBA values with a threshold to permit. Then compare a few pixels aganist each other, only 32x32x3 bytes to parse if you do them all anyway, wouldn't take that long.

Not worth it for our cause :p. The head checker was just added as a precaution because with the new uploader it's a hell of a lot easier to re-upload heads (click "Upload", click "heads" folder, then double click one).

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1551132)
problem with auto checking is there could be something that someone took from there head and put on a friends head that took up maybe 50% of the head, so if it checked by pixel it would come up as stolen wouldnt it?

see below

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551042)
It's not quite that simple. The way it works is that it looks for heads with the exact same file size (down to the byte) from a list of corresponding head paths and file sizes. If it matches, it's most likely a duplicate. However, there are rare cases where there are two heads with the same file size, so it also compares the contents with a string check.

Changing this to actually load every file, parse it as a PNG/GIF/MNG, then compare each pixel would be nearly impossible and definitely not worth the effort (except maybe for experience in programming, I guess).


fowlplay4 01-19-2010 06:30 AM

All scripted anti-theft purposes against images made on Graal are pointless due to the fact that the images are stored as is in the folders itself, and anyone can go in there and mess around, easily avoiding any sort of detection scheme involving RGB by changing a shade of color on the head by 2 or so points.

Also, due to the vast amount of heads and the relatively small workspace for each head it's safe to assume that many of them will share similar qualities with each other, shape, color. To maintain a cache or whatever complex system you require to make this work efficiently is far too much work for the low volume of complaints there actually are against graphic theft.

So if an image (at least Heads, Bodies, Hats, Shields) is uploaded on Graal you should be expecting it to be remade, and edited by other players who may or not may be as graphically inclined as yourself.

But this is about what Era wants, not building graphic detection schemes :P

CharlieM 01-19-2010 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1551192)
Checking pixels is what I was talking about; building a PNG/GIF/MNG parser and checking the pixels against every other head would be nigh impossible.

you said filesize...I thought

I'm just saying pixel checking would never work

Nonepwnz 01-21-2010 08:52 PM

I want to see more advanced systems for the gang's and businesses. With ranks, achievements and much more. I want to see new leaders for the gangs, more active people! :D

GarethOmni 01-22-2010 02:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nonepwnz (Post 1551595)
I want to see more advanced systems for the gang's and businesses. With ranks, achievements and much more. I want to see new leaders for the gangs, more active people! :D

Era needs to give everyone that "new feeling" before it has more active people.
Once it resets yet again we will see if you get just that.

I personally would love to see that territories idea I mentioned a long time ago but am too lazy to hunt down.

Vman13x 01-22-2010 02:04 AM

I like the new feeling but the bad part is getting your items back

GarethOmni 01-22-2010 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vman13x (Post 1551637)
I like the new feeling but the bad part is getting your items back

What's even worse is knowing you will (probably) have to do it again.

spikekid 03-22-2010 12:55 AM

All guns should be available to everyone somehow.

Kamaeru 04-06-2010 07:37 PM

I want to see more inspiration from the Earthbound series. Believe it or not, the design of your server has choice parallels to the design aspects of that game--in much the same way that the design choices of Graal parallel Zelda. The whole concept of that game was to design cities in much the same way (in a slightly different/better perspective).

I know gameplay will never even be remotely similar. That's possibly part of the problem, but **** leveling up and turn-based crap anyway.

Arakonda 04-06-2010 11:28 PM

Could you guys like have it done before next April, thanks.:noob:

Trak 04-15-2010 02:20 AM

Bring back outbreak <333

Unkownsoldier 04-17-2010 03:07 PM

No Gangs, No events, No "non-pk zones", give everyone the same gun, unlimited ammo, and auto re-spawn where you died. And that is what makes a fun server. 1000 kills, gets u an upgrade for your gun, 5000, another upgrade, 10000, another upgrade, 25000 another upgrade, so on and so on. Thanks.

iRedemption 05-19-2010 01:41 AM

Gun racks gun racks plz make gun racks gun racks

cbk1994 05-19-2010 10:47 PM

In regards to the gun rack, how many guns should each gang be allowed? 5?

Supaman771 05-19-2010 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1577404)
how many guns should each gang be allowed? 5?

Yes:D:D

salesman 05-19-2010 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1577404)
In regards to the gun rack, how many guns should each gang be allowed? 5?

Would be cool if you could upgrade your gun rack with points (allow 5 to start, but then maybe add 1 all the way up to 10).

Cubical 05-20-2010 12:17 AM

Amount of guns on the rack should be based on how many points your gang has. It would put them to use. Like you need 500 for all 5 slots or something but if you lose 100 then you can only have 4.

iRedemption 05-20-2010 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cubical (Post 1577429)
Amount of guns on the rack should be based on how many points your gang has. It would put them to use. Like you need 500 for all 5 slots or something but if you lose 100 then you can only have 4.

they will still have a "use" even if they're not based on points...if you spent less of your time idling on PR tag you would know that. if they're based off points gangs will basiclly just have them for 1/2 the week rofl, how dumb is that?

i think that limiting the gun rack to 5 guns is perfect, all of the players will like this update.

BigBear3 05-20-2010 03:15 AM

What is the point of these gun racks? I CAN PUT MY GUN ON THE RACK INSTEAD OF USING IT. I don't understand.

salesman 05-20-2010 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1577481)
What is the point of these gun racks? I CAN PUT MY GUN ON THE RACK INSTEAD OF USING IT. I don't understand.

It is for gangs...if you are in the gang, you can use the weapon via the gun rack.

BigBear3 05-20-2010 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by salesman (Post 1577486)
It is for gangs...if you are in the gang, you can use the weapon via the gun rack.

Oh, I see. So let's say I'm on Zorbi Krew, I walk into our base, grab a Ak47 off the rack...and it's mine until I put it back?


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