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xXziroXx 12-10-2007 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363011)
Nothing is wrong with using the escape menu.

Do you even understand how the people are abusing it? On Windows, when you push Esc, your client gets frozen and no scripts are processed. Baddies etc. keep attacking you while you dont get damaged, while your friends kill it off. Scripted Esc button instead of default Windows stuff would be way better.

Rufus 12-10-2007 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1363166)
Do you even understand how the people are abusing it? On Windows, when you push Esc, your client gets frozen and no scripts are processed. Baddies etc. keep attacking you while you dont get damaged, while your friends kill it off. Scripted Esc button instead of default Windows stuff would be way better.

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1363043)
The Windows title bar and task bar have the same 'freezing' effect on the client when it is right clicked too :p

:noob:

James 12-11-2007 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1363155)
What you've just said makes no logical sense at all.
We'll remove the EXP that only one person in the party gained and we'll also kill him ! we won't remove the EXP from the people that helped kill the monster, and we won't kill them either !
Please, if you're going to post, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

You're right. I didn't even take that into consideration. It's a complicated situation. Stefan should fix it immediately; I can only imagine how it could be abused on other servers.

He should at least make a command for the server options such as "escdisabled=true/false", if he's not going to be fixing the actual client for awhile.

cbk1994 12-11-2007 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xXziroXx (Post 1363166)
Do you even understand how the people are abusing it? On Windows, when you push Esc, your client gets frozen and no scripts are processed. Baddies etc. keep attacking you while you dont get damaged, while your friends kill it off. Scripted Esc button instead of default Windows stuff would be way better.

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Originally Posted by cbk1994
(I'm assuming the monster would attack you while you just stood there, and party members would kill them while you were on escape?).-

Read the thread before you post please :(

Inverness 12-11-2007 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1363155)
What you've just said makes no logical sense at all.
We'll remove the EXP that only one person in the party gained and we'll also kill him ! we won't remove the EXP from the people that helped kill the monster, and we won't kill them either !
Please, if you're going to post, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

Exp should be logged anyways, just remove the exp they gained from the abuser. If you can't do this then I don't think you're doing good enough somewhere.

BigBear3 12-11-2007 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1363262)
Exp should be logged anyways, just remove the exp they gained from the abuser. If you can't do this then I don't think you're doing good enough somewhere.

Great idea. Much better than jailing everyone.

Inverness 12-11-2007 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by BigBear3 (Post 1363265)
Great idea. Much better than jailing everyone.

Yea, every MMORPG out there that has an EXP-based system would certainly log it, Zodiac should be no different.

Twinny 12-11-2007 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1363155)
we won't remove the EXP from the people that helped kill the monster, and we won't kill them either !
Please, if you're going to post, KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

You'll just jail them?

James 12-11-2007 05:18 AM

I don't know if you already have a log of people that are pressing ESC in dungeons, but you could script something that detects the people that do it more than "x" times and put them in a separate log. Also have it search the entire party and find people that commonly are in parties that abuse it.

Whatever you want to do them is entirely up to you, but I'd bust out the mighty banhammer, or threaten them with an account reset.

Twinny 12-11-2007 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1363282)
Whatever you want to do them is entirely up to you, but I'd bust out the mighty banhammer, or threaten them with an account reset.

Which is why you probably won't be the manager of Zodiac anytime soon.

xAndrewx 12-11-2007 07:56 PM

Once again, read the thread.

I quit Zodiac.

However, it's all logged. I personally prefer the no dungeon entry for an hour. :)

cbk1994 12-11-2007 11:18 PM

<sarcasm>Problems like this one are the reasons everyone needs to buy a Mac.</sarcasm>

Xterminator 12-11-2007 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363358)
<sarcasm>Problems like this one are the reasons everyone needs to buy a Mac.</sarcasm>

Lol

Inverness 12-12-2007 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363358)
<sarcasm>Problems like this one are the reasons everyone needs to buy a Mac.</sarcasm>

I'm not feeling the humor.

James 12-12-2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1363290)
Which is why you probably won't be the manager of Zodiac anytime soon.

Meh, it's not really an unheard of thing. Most major online games have zero tolerance for abusing anything that gives a player an unfair advantage over another.

I know Graal isn't a huge online game, but it's the principle of the matter. If you're knowingly abusing the system you should be warned, and then severely punished upon continuation.

cbk1994 12-12-2007 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1363367)
I'm not feeling the humor.

That's because the cat ate your cookie :(

http://icanhascheezburger.files.word...estify-cat.jpg

Inverness 12-12-2007 05:46 AM

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Originally Posted by cbkbud (Post 1363415)
That's because the cat ate your cookie :(

http://blog.1800dessert.com/oreo.jpg
I don't think so.

cbk1994 12-12-2007 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1363419)

Little do you know, Oreos suck.

Tom 12-13-2007 12:18 AM

rofl when i read that "i no eated da cookie" my cat was pulling the same face at me xD ah hahaha

oinknessx 01-02-2008 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by napo_p2p (Post 1362498)
For windows, it goes into the "Do you really want to quit Graal?" screen and I think the client stops accepting packets from the servers when that screen is up.

Zodiac should change the escape button jail thingy ASAP. However, I also think Graal should either get rid of that escape menu, or just make it like linux where the menu is a GUI Control.

The escape button isn't the problem, and it's a perfectly legitimate feature. The problem is players abusing the system. If it's fairly obvious that a large number of players are abusing this feature, then some form of action must be taken. Although I don't agree with jailing an entire server, surely they could script a system that hurts the player and removes HP instead of ruining everyone's day.


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