These servers we pay for, arent just in private.. are they? :( I want Everworld open to everyone O:

No.

if you want it open to everyone, then just open it publically, and don't pay
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i plan on getting EoA up privately, by paying the monthly fee... then after a few months, ask for a review, and hopefully go up publically

Ill be paying straight through probably.. beacuse non payers will be 'taxed' with new rules :p
So.. I could pay and thats unlimited Private time pretty much O: .. better than the 1 month they wouldve given us.

You only get 2 weeks in private right now, or at least that's how it's supposed to be...

I stand by my suggestion of instead of having them all be private (you could chose to be private of course) they should make a new tab in the serverlist for payed servers

I thought the same thing about having a 3rd tab for playerworlds that are purchased by players it just makes more sense because otherwise how are people supposed to know they exist? Sure some people can check boards. Others through word of mouth from another server. But for newbies who dont really know much about entering a server name in or how to look in RC to see all currently hidden playerworlds it just doesnt make much sense when compaired to a 3rd tab.

i agree with having a third tab
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that should be best..

and 2 weeks now? how do they expect you to get everything online, and ready to go in 2 weeks??

i even thought that 1 month was kinda short...

it keeps changing every few days anyways... i think if you show you are actually working, and not just sitting around, they would probably give you more time... i think it's more of a case-by-case basis
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but that's just my thoughts

It has been 2 weeks for some time you just aren't up on the PW Rules. And no all PWs are treated the same , the rules are for all either you make it or you don't and it is removed so I suggest you have your act together before it goes private. Check the other related threads on this topic much has been said on it. And it doesn't change every few days, you just haven't been following it these past few months and that is obvious by your post.

I always felt that there should be a third tab, but I felt it should be a third tab that consists of playable demo playerworlds.
Like make a small 16 level world with some great npc's and GK gfx to advertise to new trial users. Probably allow them to save their stuff too for only 10 hours of playing time.

actually i talk to Nemesis about this every week or so
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and it does change often...

don't post on things you know nothing about
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the rules on getting a server online do change often, and to a degree, it does depend on the server... they may not say it flat out, but it does.

*edit* and i like how you seem to like to reply to most the posts i make, and try to make me look stupid
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it's quite funny how obcessed you've become

Example O:

I thought that when you're private all you should be doing is making sure your npc's work correctly and get rid of bugs.

Uh, ETD...all he was saying is that you havent been a member of the forums for very long, and may not have read the threads where it is discussed, and be up to date on them....from what we have read, and what most players know, it is 2 weeks period...but it is obvious that no rule put up is ever followed through, or the rules are changed, and noone is advised that isnt friends with the globals.

well, at least you're nice about it, and you don't call meh names
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yes, i have just joined the forums lately... but ever since december i have been reading the forums, even though i could not post. (mostly just the main one, this one, and the levels forum).

and i have been keeping up to date with Nem too
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so it's not like i'm stupid and/or uninformed


anyways, thx for being nice, and not mean like your husband
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yes, but you have NPC's, and quests, and all sorts of stuff... i think a month should be about right... cuz if you have a good sized server (unless you've been lucky enough to be able to test your scripts online somewhere), then you'd have to test like 15 quests, and tons of NPC's and such... i don't see how you could do it in 2 weeks... well, i guess it's possible... but i think a month is more resonable
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ETD, in looking back at Moon God's post...he called you no names

Can you three please stop spamming up topics with pointless bickering really if you have a problem take it up in person or keep it in the original thread you started in rather than spam and drag more threads off topic. Because aside from you three no one else cares.

i ment these lines, in which he speaks down at me... i mean, who does he think he is? telling me to "get my act together" :rolleyes:
and I have been keeping up with it... i didn't think it was right that he would post such an assumption, since it was obviouse that he was just trying to make me look like i don't know what i'm talking about
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thanks, i hope they listen
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i mean, i just post normally, then they come in, and start fights... i really wish they would stop, and leave me alone
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i mean, they banned me from their forums, and now it seems (at least MG) is trying to pester me so much, i'll leave these :\
but he can't ban me here =D and that makes me happy, and probably annoys the heck out of him
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The rules are enforced to an acceptable degree, it doesn't affect you in any way. Secondly, i'm the one who mentioned the 2 week limit and i'm not friends with any globals.

I'm tired of you guys fighting in threads, this is the 5th one or so. Not just with ETD either, moonies, with kaimetsu and all sorts of other people, some deserving, some not. By the time i got done reading the last post i couldn't remember what i wanted to say about the PWs anymore :\

Now, after re-reading the ones before this inane arguement, i remember that i wanted to comment on the fact that 2 weeks should be plenty of time. Quests are mostly clientside and NPCs should be scripted to the best of their ability before submission. 2 weeks is for debugging, and any dilligent group of staff could probably do it in 1.

I wasnt arguing with ETD, I was explaining the post...and I know that the 2 week thing has been mentioned all over the place on these forums..what I was saying is the rules dont apply to everyone, never have, never will...and if you cant talk to the right people, you wont have a clue as to what is going on. This is a proven fact since people are all the time asking me about things that I cant even give them a straight answer to because there are so many different things said about stuff, and the rules keep changing...so I end up saying "I dont know" and sounding like an idiot

I said 3 note 2 you where included in that post. One of you has to be the bigger person and walk away. It's easy if you feel they are just trying to get you in trouble or flame you dont respond. By responding you make yourself just as guilty for the whole argument as them. Dont try to place all the blame on them alone. It takes two sides to argue.

umm... that post was ment to imply that i am 'walking away'
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and Houdini... yea, i see your point about the quests, you're right
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and Moonie... that was EXACTLY what i was trying to say to MG
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Oh ok =) it was just me misunderstanding what you ment then. I thought you where placing the blame on them when infact you where saying you hope they do the same. Ok gotcha. ;)

Its hard to find a really good NPC Admin these days x_x..

Good nemesis, its smart giving stefan and unimax money and at the same time getting better servers if they pay, good idea.

I also like that its applications now for Playerworld Rewiers, thats good.

I do that sometimes :D

And npc admins are a pain to find, but i was delteria's for quite a bit. Not anymore though *shrugs*

Uhg.. not the old "we have to pay money for our work" argument. If it's good enough you won't have to pay, if you are paying, then it's not very good and only costing them money. Not to mention $20 is really fricken cheap. For $20 at a high quality shell host you can get one IRC server, and no other proccesses, including services, and no web hosting. IRC is text only, while Graal is obviosly not, and also takes up a lot more CPU on the server. Yet with $20 you get a server, and even web space. Remember, it does cost them money, and if you where to make a complete game from scratch, not just a world for a game, you would have to pay a lot more than $20. It's a bargain.

Well said. :)

Remember the price has NOT been set yet Nemesis was only making a guess at what it may be. So don't count on it being at that price till Unixmad himself post the details.

I think they would be compensated in the long run. At a lower price more people will do it, if you have it at 50$ say 2 people buy servers... but 20$ you might get 5. Even if they are only breaking even in that example it would be much less costly for 1 person to stop wanting to pay out of 5, rather than out of 2. Not to mention i'm sure you'd have many more than 5 servers if it was only 20$ a month

Yes, I realize that, I'm not an idiot. I personaly think $50 would be reasonable... I was trying to make a point that it's not stupid to have to pay for a player world, and that if in the end it is $20, even less reason too. ;)

P.S. I love the edit button, too bad more people don't :\ (just a general complaint.. not pointing at anyone...)

If 50 is gonna be the price, its gonna be hella hard to pay for that. I mean really, 50 is just way too much for GRAAL, 20 dollars is way reasonable than that.

Hey, they aren't buying new VIP or gold accounts. They are paying for an entire server to go up. I wouldn't be suprised if it was higher than $50.

Although, I guess it is pointless to argue until the price is actually released.

He said it was going to be a fair price didnt he? Im expecting 20-40 :x

Maybe if you had a VIP and Gold account you could get some % of the server price knocked off as your a VIP!?

if i'm not mistaken... it was origionally going to be an option for VIP members only...

but now i'm assuming it would be open to everyone

Still alot of money... :\ I wouldn't be surprised if it were over 50 dollars..

Probably 200 dollars for the entire year.
A yearly fee sounds reasonable because it's a good chance people will miss payments if it's a monthly thing. Not sure about the price though.

Yearly poses the problem of irregular income. And im fairly sure they aren't paying for a whole new dedicated server computer to be put up, they're just adding a new G server app to one they have...

200 a YEAR?! too rich for my teenage blood :(

umm... you expected it to be $20 - $40 a month *does math*
which would be... $240 - $480 a year....

then you say...

which would be CHEAPER than you expected...

I have heard about $15 a month will be the charge... meaning $180 a year