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Zeke 04-27-2011 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1645555)
I used to get that on V5 with Ubuntu 10.10 but It doesn't happen on V6.

I just upgraded mine to ubuntu 11.04 beta, It's lagging on here too, but the delay is not as long as it was on 10.10. Odd.. I suspect they might improve ALSA performance via pulseaudio on the normal 11.04 release that comes out tomorrow. I'll post if it's any better or not then.

cyan3 04-27-2011 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 1645923)
I just upgraded mine to ubuntu 11.04 beta, It's lagging on here too, but the delay is not as long as it was on 10.10. Odd.. I suspect they might improve ALSA performance via pulseaudio on the normal 11.04 release that comes out tomorrow. I'll post if it's any better or not then.

I went back and checked V5 and sound doesn't have any delay but I've had this problem many times with different installs after formatting and reinstalling Linux and mostly had the same problem with new installations but a few of the installs the sound worked without any problems.

Admins 04-27-2011 05:56 PM

Linux v6 is using SDL mixer, normally it should be fine

Deas_Voice 04-27-2011 11:00 PM

V6 seems to be using different sounds when slashing, droping bombs, etc, is this correct?

also, grab gani doesn't show for me, tried to delete it, no change.

Zeke 04-27-2011 11:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1646001)
V6 seems to be using different sounds when slashing, droping bombs, etc, is this correct?

The only thing I can think of is that a lot of the sounds were redone on some iphone servers. Of course, the only way for you to have obtained those would've been to actually log onto one, (which I don't know if you have), though I wouldn't think those would've carried over to other servers. Or perhaps I'm completely wrong, and the default/included sound files have changed.

(Chances are I'm completely wrong. lol.)

Admins 04-27-2011 11:53 PM

The sounds haven't changed, may be some server was overwriting them. It's also possible that the sounds sound differently with SDL, like it's doing on Facebook (because it only supports 11,22 and 44 kHz).

Forkk 04-28-2011 01:58 AM

Both V5 and V6 seem to have a sound delay for me in both Ubuntu 11.04, and Ubuntu 10.10, on both of my computers. (Which are both pretty slow) V5 had about a 1-2 second delay, while V6 is only about half a second. I also noticed that the sounds seem different too.

Umat 04-28-2011 12:17 PM

44,1 kHz is standard, this is what most people use anyway (nowadays).

Deas_Voice 04-28-2011 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1646024)
The sounds haven't changed, may be some server was overwriting them. It's also possible that the sounds sound differently with SDL, like it's doing on Facebook (because it only supports 11,22 and 44 kHz).

that's odd.

since v6 is using the same files as v5, they use the same sounds, nothing is overwritten ( to fix this "overwriting" issue, you could make the default files read-only), so it has to be the SDL library

Twinny 04-28-2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Umat (Post 1646112)
44,1 kHz is standard, this is what most people use anyway (nowadays).

192Khz, baby!

Admins 06-26-2011 08:53 PM

v6.004 is up for Linux: It contains all the updates which were listed for Windows and Mac, but doesn't auto-update yet, so you have to download it:

Linux 64 bit (default): http://www.graalonline.com/downloads...al_linux64.zip
Linux 32 bit: http://www.graalonline.com/downloads...al_linux32.zip

Deas_Voice 06-27-2011 02:58 PM

the sounds are still "high pitched"/sounds differently when V5

Tolnaftate2004 09-08-2011 02:29 AM

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Ubuntu 11.04 fresh install + SDL/-mixer

Fonts in TWindows are all fine, but in the main client window are garbled.

cyan3 09-09-2011 01:53 PM

The V6 client stopped working on my Linux box and when running the client in the Terminal I get this error message:

HTML Code:

michael@ubuntu-notebook:~$ cd ~/.graal/graal4/
michael@ubuntu-notebook:~/.graal/graal4$ ./Graal6.004-32
Direct Rendering is enabled, Graal should run smoothly.
Data directory: /home/michael/.graal/graal4/
This is a beta release of Graal. If it's not working on your computer then please download a new version from http://www.graalonline.com or check out the forums at http://forums.graalonline.com.
michael@ubuntu-notebook:~/.graal/graal4$

I'm assuming that Linux has a new client version but hasn't been uploaded yet? Anyway, as far as I'm aware I have the most current version and even re-downloading the client from graalonline.com still comes up with the same error message.

Admins 09-10-2011 02:51 AM

Will try to release a new version this weekend.

WhiteDragon 09-10-2011 02:53 AM

Yeah, same problem here -- a fix would be appreciated.

cyan3 09-12-2011 11:42 PM

Any news on the new client? I'm stuck using 5.205 which has a lot of annoying bugs.

Admins 09-13-2011 04:32 AM

I said I will try :D Haven't got time, will do soon though.

WhiteDragon 09-14-2011 12:23 AM

I'm stuck with no client! (Need a 64-bit version due to drivers, and v5 doesn't have one.) :(

Admins 09-18-2011 09:11 PM

New 32-bit and 64-bit versions of v6.011 are uploaded:

Linux 64 bit (default): http://www.graalonline.com/downloads...al_linux64.zip
Linux 32 bit: http://www.graalonline.com/downloads...al_linux32.zip

Emera 10-24-2011 01:47 PM

Just dumped Windows 7 in the trash and got me Ubuntu. It runs way better than Windows. This is also the same with running Graal on Windows. It runs better on Ubuntu.

Emera 10-25-2011 08:51 PM

Sudden closure
 
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I am trying to script a level NPC using FP4's ONLE. I am only typing the word join, and when I finish with typing the letter 'n', it closes. Any ideas? The end of the vid shows the client close.

Add: The following words close the client.
  • join
  • set
  • addweapon
  • showcharacter
  • drawunder/overplayer
  • player (yep, I can hardly script)
  • sendtorc
  • sendtonc

Edit: It's now occuring with the ingame RC, since I can't figure out how to set up the external rc. I can't code very much any more.

Crow 10-25-2011 11:03 PM

Possibly a problem with the syntax highlighting?

Emera 10-25-2011 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crow (Post 1671783)
Possibly a problem with the syntax highlighting?

That's what I was thinking.

It's now occurring with the client RC scripting screen, and I can hardly script. I need some help on setting up the external RC

Emera 10-27-2011 08:22 PM

Pardon the double post. I can't edit the other one. When logging onto Maloria, it brings you to the starting screen with the menu right? Well, when you press the space bar to enter the game, the client just closes. Also, the closing of the client while using the script editor is definitely down to the syntax highlighting, and is getting VERY annoying.

Admins 10-30-2011 03:18 PM

I don't know why it would crash on that, haven't experienced that at all yet. Is it only happening on certain scripts or always?
We could disable the syntax highlighting for you for now if you want.

Emera 10-30-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1672415)
I don't know why it would crash on that, haven't experienced that at all yet. Is it only happening on certain scripts or always?
We could disable the syntax highlighting for you for now if you want.

If I am using the white script editor background window, then it will always crash with certain words. Although, if I start the line or script with // or /*, then it won't crash. It's not even a crash, it just closes instantly.

Crow 10-30-2011 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Emera (Post 1672420)
It's not even a crash, it just closes instantly.

Which is a crash.

WhiteDragon 11-05-2011 11:12 PM

Just throwing this out there, but there seems to be garbage collection issues when there are large amounts (20k?) of TStaticVars.

It seems like it decides to do the GC cycle whenever you click the mouse or move the mouse out of the screen, and the TStaticVars all survive until that cycle, then the CPU is pegged at full load for ages.

Of course, the solution is to manually destroy() the TStaticVar when it is no longer needed, but I feel like there should be nicer GC being done that doesn't choke entirely on what is not a large amount of memory usage.

Quote:

Stats:
System:
Time: Sat Nov 5 00:57:55 2011
Client-version: 6.011
OS: linux 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 12 03:40:32 UTC 2011
CPU: x86

Memory (in bytes):
Total: 29261456
Bitmaps: 1051648
Drawing panels: 1204224
Textures (possibly in video RAM): 2695168

Game engine profiler:
Measured time: 41.655651092 seconds
Ordered by non-sub total time:
%NSTime % Time Invoke # Name
57.035 57.035 4 GarbageCollector
...

Admins 11-06-2011 02:38 AM

The graal garbage collector is going quite deep (makes full circular reference check) that's why it might be slower with lots of variables. It is recommended to destroy the variables if not needed.

Emera 11-20-2011 12:07 AM

Since Era Radio has just released itself, a new bug has become apparent. V6 can't receive any radio signal. Nothing plays over radio, although V5 plays Era Radio perfectly.

Admins 11-20-2011 02:58 AM

Yes the Linux and Mac versions don't support streaming yet. There is no 64bit version of the sound library we were using before x-x

Emera 11-27-2011 03:24 AM

For some reason findimg() won't show any images for V6 on linux. Gui Image Controls are fine though.

Admins 11-11-2012 03:14 AM

Is anyone still using Linux on 32 bit?

WhiteDragon 11-11-2012 03:42 AM

64-bit here.

cbk1994 11-11-2012 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteDragon (Post 1707420)
64-bit here.

Also using the 64-bit Linux client. I think 32-bit could be dropped with minimal impact.

dylan 11-11-2012 04:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stefan (Post 1707418)
Is anyone still using Linux on 32 bit?

I use Linux 32bit.

cbk1994 11-11-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dylan (Post 1707423)
I use Linux 32bit.

Why?

dylan 11-11-2012 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1707428)
Why?

I don't have a 64bit processor.

Admins 11-11-2012 04:48 AM

Ah and you run Graal on it? It's 5-6 years since the last 32 bit Intel/AMD CPUs were produced

Well anyway:
A new version for Linux (64 bit) has been uploaded: v6.037
It brings a lot of new stuff since the last v6 release and of course plenty of new things compared to v5. Download it as usual from the website although the download from login server should work if you have installed it as user:

http://www.graalonline.com/downloads/Graal6_linux64.zip

This new version is not scanning the current folder anymore, so it should be much easier to just put it anywhere and then run it. Unzip the file, make it executable, then run it:

unzip Graal6_linux64.zip
chmod 775 Graal
./Graal

All files will be download and saved to ~/.graal/graal4 in case you want to clear them or need to find the screenshots or recorded videos. The new version is using "SDL mixer" for playing sounds and music. Depending on the hardware and drivers this should work pretty well, but if there are problems then just disable sounds or music in the options on the login server.


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