You talk like GK never had 100+ players.
There is no iPhone version of Graal yet, but their games like Adrenaline Pool are counted in. The games are actually pretty decent.

No, it is. People are contributing to the conversation because it is relevant, and for those that are regularly on the game it's incredibly apparent even without making any research. If you look at the graph Crono posted however, it is dying because there wasn't even a Summer crowd increase and the players are the people who make this "game" what it is.

Where is the proof that Graal is heading in a positive direction? All I ever see is a lack of interest from both administrators and players. Oh yeah, discussions about flash games :rolleyes:

okay then, it's dying.
i guarentee you it will grow when school's out.
and then it'll die again when school starts.

It didn't when the Summer break started, why would it for Winter?

I never said anything about winter.
I said when school's out.
But- It probably will grow when Winter break starts.

I made an ad for us to use, was a bit inspired by an ad on the swedish Greenpeace site.

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/8953/addyp4.jpg

The point is that Graal will most likely continue to decline unless we have some updates on a regular basis. Even servers are not updating on a regular basis now and things are not going to fix themselves.

Zone is getting lots of updates- and more are planned.
Unholy Nation JUST got a new manager- one who was a part of the GAT and scripting team- so expect lots of updates in the future.
I'm sure that Tigairius has lots planned for GK.
If you look at the "Events News" tab when you're on the serverlist- there's 5 updates within 5 days.

Look at the graph picture I posted, it has nothing to do with school, summer, or work.

Name these "lots" of updates and the more that are planned.

Plans plans plans, call me when something is actually done.

Zone:
-Bunker
-New heads, bodies.
-New guns: Plasma Chaingun, Silencer, RedRifle&BlueRifle are made buyable.
-Cakes
-Spar is to be updated soon, as said in "spar room" thread.

Unholy Nation:
-New Tileset
-Snow
-Streety is the new manager.
-Lots of hirings. (GATS, GPs, DJs)
-Unholy Radio has recently been broadcasting.


Plans are to be finished.
And when they are finished, they are updates.

Lots of plans= Lots of updates.

Mediocre graphics, and 'complex' scripts that do little more than replace and set ganis

Plans != finished plans. Plans aren't magically finished, so you can't decude that plans = finished = updates.

It's more like...

if (plans == finished) updates;

Well, look at Zone- they just got some new updates, and their playercount has been growing.



Hmmmm.


Those updates were graphics.

Oh, the one with 0 players.

This is standard stuff on any server.

Silencer, Red rifle, and Blue Rifle are not new. Removing something and then re-adding it in the future is not really an "update". Silencer has existed for atleast 2 years on Zone Debug, there's more too they just haven't released them yet.

From last year.

That's nice but this (along with other things you mentioned) aren't the type of updates Crimson2005 is talking about.

Standard winter themes.

This counts as an update nowadays? What?

This counts as an update nowadays? What?

Thank the Gods, Graal is saved!

Plans are usually NEVER finished. Lots of plans != Lots of updates.

All in all Graal is dying, which is what the original topic was about. The graph I posted proves this, and unless you have troubles reading graphis why are you still trying to argue?

Zone's playercount is a fraction of what it was