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zim5354 08-09-2007 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338475)
What are they going to use? IP? You can change IP. Computer ID? You can change that too.

i doubt the average trail knows how to change their computer ID

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1338439)
They have to, lifetime classic no longer exists for people who don't already have it. So either even more people will quit or the ones we have now will simply upgrade 6 month classic or whatever the new system is.

in six months this game will be a grave yard or just oldbies

Admins 08-09-2007 11:11 PM

Or celebrate its 10th birthday :D

cbk1994 08-10-2007 03:42 AM

Notice how Stefan avoids the topic of Graal being extremely hackable.

Googi 08-10-2007 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1338476)
You can also prevent this.

How?

Quote:

Originally Posted by zim5354 (Post 1338482)
i doubt the average trail knows how to change their computer ID

Viper, etc. will do a lot to make that change if it's made so that trials can get a bunch more free play time by doing so.

Black_Wallstreet 08-10-2007 05:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338640)
How?


Im not a computer expert. Now, if you asked someone from a company such as AW, they could easily find a way to prevent this.

Googi 08-10-2007 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1338648)
Im not a computer expert. Now, if you asked someone from a company such as AW, they could easily find a way to prevent this.

I highly doubt it. Highly. They would have to store an unalterable, unremovable piece of data on your computer. Just where, exactly, would they be able to store such a thing?

Black_Wallstreet 08-10-2007 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338661)
I highly doubt it. Highly. They would have to store an unalterable, unremovable piece of data on your computer. Just where, exactly, would they be able to store such a thing?

Quote:

Im not a computer expert.
Reading is always a good thing.

Twinny 08-10-2007 06:43 AM

Or perhaps a better computer id system. Use mobo serial, harddrive serial, bios checksum: anything but use a massive combination so it's alot harder to screw with it. To help prevent reverse engineering, RC shouldn't show the exact pcid the client uses.

Googi 08-10-2007 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1338663)
Reading is always a good thing.

I'm supposed to just not tell you why you're wrong because you're not an "expert"?

Black_Wallstreet 08-10-2007 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338669)
I'm supposed to just not tell you why you're wrong because you're not an "expert"?

As Zim said, how many people could actually find a way past that?
The answer? Not many...

I think you are over-rating the average Graalian's intellect.

Also, im not wrong. I cant be wrong if all I did was suggest an idea. Alot of people would not be able to find a way past that. Also computer experts, who know alot more about computers than me or yourself, could prevent you from "getting around" the 30 day trial system.

Googi 08-10-2007 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1338670)
As Zim said, how many people could actually find a way past that?
The answer? Not many...

I think you are over-rating the average Graalian's intellect.

There are already programs that let you change your computer ID by pressing a button.

Twinny 08-10-2007 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338672)
There are already programs that let you change your computer ID by pressing a button.

Which is why i've been asking for a new PCID method for some time. PC bans are worthless now :frown:

Black_Wallstreet 08-10-2007 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338672)
There are already programs that let you change your computer ID by pressing a button.

Touche.

Grey 08-14-2007 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Black_Wallstreet (Post 1338670)
I think you are over-rating the average Graalian's intellect.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Googi (Post 1338672)
There are already programs that let you change your computer ID by pressing a button.

:rolleyes:

Kirble 08-27-2007 04:56 PM

I was going to say the mac address, but that can be spoofed easily. Also, about the IP changer and computer ID changer, google it, I'm sure you will find alot of various 1-click programs that automatically change it.


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