hmm. I wonder if those top 10 would be willing to pay good level makers and scripters to work for them. It's a nice blackmail to use aginst the top 10 if you make good levels or npc's.

When I gather more details or if Unixmad himself posts here to correct me...Then details will be given. Until then it's made for people to know whats coming in the future, so you are aware of things and can prepare your servers accordingly. The price is approx. 10-20 usd. But the fact is...you won't be paying 10-20 a month because there will be goals to meet, and money prizes to help pay for the worlds per month. That is the aim to basically

Good, that's better than GOD DAMN paying money and crap, because what if someone misses a month of paying ;x

Im sure we will be able to say, pay for two months in advance?
Or soemthing like that..

10-20 usd.. ah crap.. into Canadian cashmonies thats more ;_;..
I make about $40 on average (Canadian).. a month.. but I need that for when I break my decks and stuff <=/

Its still only 10-20usd, it will be slightly more but by 1-1.5usd MAX so its not much of an increase.

Devil has a point here, what if we miss a payment? Does Unix run to our house and take chairs and dishes to the value of 10-20USD, lol.

wow, my first post on these forums
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ok, i got some questions...

#1. will servers which are already online have to pay as well?
#2. you said that the top servers will get a free month, or something? will this be only the top paid servers, or top servers out of all of them?


anyways, i agree with the "paid servers" tab idea... you could just have an icon next to the under construction PW's...

also, someone said you might get 'only' $3 from an upgrade... but if you have to pay only $10 a month... that means you just have to get 3 or 4 people a month to put your server down when they upgrade.... that's not too bad (added in with the more players = less money thing)

I don't think this will lower the quality at all... since now new servers will die out if no-one plays them, since the owner won't want to pay for it to stay up... and if they are willing to pay to keep an empty PW up, more power to them
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oh, and to MG... if you read what Nem said... he said that even the paid worlds would have to follow the graal rules
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so i dunno what you're so worried about...

and server managers can already jail/ban someone for ANY reason they want... since i went on Val... and got jailed just for wearing my (Dragon Knights) tag... since the guild was not 'approved' of
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no they cant either....some servers have different rules, but that doesnt mean they can jail/ban for whatever reason they choose, like if they simply dont like a person....they have to have a valid reason

ok, just how do you propose unixmad gets the money to make the quality of graal even better?
I dont think letting people buy space is a good idea unless there are strict rules, but from what I understand, the rules for the purchased space will be slack compared to the "free" servers...I hope I am wrong
But I do agree that if this is done, it be a hefty price to keep the crap out

I do like this idea, thank god I didn't quit my job. I think I might purchase a years worth of time once this program comes into play. Hmm.. I will create a global spar server. lmao!

yea, and you can change the rules however you want...

I was also banned on Val, because 'ETD' is not a "real" name
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i mean, comeon!

anyways, you can BS a reason for banning someone easily, since there are so many loop holes in the rules...

and besides, if no-one plays that server because of bad management, then the owner has to pay more money to keep it up... and i see no problem with it if they want to pay for an empty server
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just gives graal more money to work with

Anyway, when ever I see Valk and its open, I see about 50-70 people so its not empty.

Problem with this is if there is no limit then people will pay money to get there playerworld up. Yet it could suck and draw like no players. And if you got like 30 some playerworlds up, it uses alot of server %usage, and servers will start lagging alot more.

Problem with a limit is you get a limit of say, 10 servers, but them 10 could draw a small amount of players and other playerworlds won't have a chance to get up.

I never said it was
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and Zell, if graal now has all this new $, thery could afford a new server
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i mean, with charging for servers now, the owner is basically paying for that server space... if he waists it, that's his problem, but at least they're giving something back to graal
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besides, what's the harm in having so many servers? people might start experimenting with new ideas and such
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Can't expect Unixmad to buy new servers anytime soon. hehe

$50 a year is not a reasonable amount considering the extra work, HD space, bandwidth and upkeep management of the Servers for the *******s, taking a guess it will be in $25 to $75 a Month range to make it anywhere profitable for Graal. You can't host any game of any quality on the net for such a menial amount. This remember is not being done for you players convenience of wanting a PW up, it is being done to turn a profit for Graal for salaries, upgrades and future development of Graal. This takes money; nothing is cheap so you guys need to realize it is not being done so the average 16 year old can afford to do this. Also keep in mind you will share in the subscription money if players designate some of his/her upgrade to your server. This will offset your cost of the server and if enough do then even make it cost free for you to run. As I understand it, this will be done as some sort of online bank account, real money doesn’t exchange hands, your account is just credited a certain amount that players want to go to that PW.

note to ETD: Unixmad has 20 servers now, not all are used for Graal.

k i didn't read most of this thread but i have 2 questions:

1. Will the servers that are already up on the playerlist have to start paying too? and servers that passed reviews but haven't been put up yet, will they need to pay?

2. Does the player have to donate money or whatever to help pay for the server if they like it or is that just optional?