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DustyPorViva 05-16-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Unkownsoldier (Post 1694790)
That would be great, and you would do other things other than just Graal Kart right? It could have some great possibilities if you get it working properly.

Me? Probably not. I intend to do a little kart-game with it but that's it. But I will release the script(hence the need for it to be user-friendly) and what others do with it is up to them. You could use it for old RPG-style overworlds. Use it to create LttP-style map interfaces. But mimicking Duke Nukem? That's an entirely different type of 3d casting, as that would be raycasting instead of floorcasting.

Fulg0reSama 05-16-2012 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1694793)
Me? Probably not. I intend to do a little kart-game with it but that's it. But I will release the script(hence the need for it to be user-friendly) and what others do with it is up to them. You could use it for old RPG-style overworlds. Use it to create LttP-style map interfaces. But mimicking Duke Nukem? That's an entirely different type of 3d casting, as that would be raycasting instead of floorcasting.

Yeah, I was off with the duke nukem bit, but you could very easily make an interesting kind of survivor shooter regardless with enough planning.

Also could make one of those dodger games (like skiing and avoiding the trees)

Hiro 05-16-2012 03:47 AM

Almost like Graal3D, right? Right?


Right... ;_;

DustyPorViva 05-16-2012 04:59 AM

PFA(Tolnaftate2004 up there) is taking a stab at the maths now. I trust his skills so I can't wait! In the mean time I will be having at the graphical side, doing some graphics, working no the parallax scrolling and such.

Devil_Lord2 05-16-2012 07:56 AM

I don't know who would know, but have you asked Thor or Fowl?
I feel like you are trying to seek for help through this thread,
not sure if you've advertised elsewhere, and everyone is
commenting with spam / not providing useful information
like myself.

I'd like to use this, only walking, in one quest. Mini quest...

I'm not sure who is good at math though, I've gotten only to trig and that was it.. I just tweak with things until they work also. :/

Even when I do find out equations that work, 1-2 weeks later I've forgotten what I've done and the whole thing confuses me, like my pet system. >.>;

I've love to help though. D:


I know ZeroG made a 3D Cube on Graal... doubt that helps though..

Hezzy002 05-16-2012 08:14 AM

Duke Nukem doesn't use ray casting, it's just polygons being traced out through a BSP tree and rasterized with a software rasterizer. You can't pull something of that calibur out of Graal, but you can do something like Wolf3D with floor casting if you use ray casting and this floor casting method in tandem.

Crono 05-16-2012 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1694803)
or Fowl?

Let it forever be known that mentally challenged Crono's math is better than FP4's.

ffcmike 05-16-2012 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Devil_Lord2 (Post 1694803)
I don't know who would know, but have you asked Thor or Fowl?

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1694810)
Let it forever be known that mentally challenged Crono's math is better than FP4's.

No good asking me either it's WhiteDragon's job to do the mathematical thinking. :blush:

linkrulz4 05-17-2012 07:34 AM

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This mode.
It has a flavor.

DustyPorViva 05-17-2012 07:50 AM

PFA went ahead and completely rescripted it into a PROPER 3D projection mode... and it is awesome :)

I'm still tweaking what he has, but so far it looks great! Ignore the temporary Mario graphics(sky)

http://i.imgur.com/lRPes.png

linkrulz4 05-17-2012 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1694871)
PFA went ahead and completely rescripted it into a PROPER 3D projection mode... and it is awesome :)

I'm still tweaking what he has, but so far it looks great! Ignore the temporary Mario graphics(sky)

http://i.imgur.com/lRPes.png

This is extremely interesting. I knew Graal was capable of rendering polygons, but I never imagined someone would actually accomplish this much with the client ever. Sir, this is by far the greatest thing I have ever seen scripted by a single man. You said you plan on making this public, yes?
Is there a plan to make this a third person camera, or would you have it as a first-person camera? I could easily see someone using this to create some sort of death-match game like DOOM. This adds a whole new level of possibilities to what kind of playerworlds or events people can create.

Also are those reflections just Photoshopped or did you really script that? Looks gorgeous, man. :D

DustyPorViva 05-17-2012 08:03 AM

PFA did all of the new 3D scripting, he gets the credit :)

And the reflections are all scripted ;)

linkrulz4 05-17-2012 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1694873)
PFA did all of the new 3D scripting, he gets the credit :)

And the reflections are all scripted ;)

My hat goes off to both of you, then.
Solid work. This is exactly the innovation Graal needs.
Seriously, it's relieving to see such dedicated people creating such a revolutionary idea on the client and making it a reality. Again, that is simply amazing and really pushes past what we thought was the limits of the program. :D

Kiwi27 05-17-2012 08:25 AM

That is amazing.

Tricxta 05-17-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1694873)
PFA did all of the new 3D scripting, he gets the credit :)

And the reflections are all scripted ;)

Is it creating the reflection only initially or constantly refreshing. If it is constantly refreshing I thought that'd be rather intensive, no?
Also, does this have any lag overall as of yet?


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