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Stephen 06-02-2008 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1393775)
Frankie said something about the players, which Stephen replied to with something about it not being responsible to pin whatever on the players, but you do have to think about it: Player A is found out, you seriously think he/she's going to give up what they know about it to someone who could probably fix it? Hardly likely. I've been down that road hundreds of times, already. Even tried bargining with some of them, but once they have their end of the bargin, they're right back to it, knowing they've completely lied to your face.

Please refer to the post of Dusty's which I mentioned. You'll find your proper route of action there.

[email protected] 06-02-2008 12:23 PM

hmm i could add newbie protection for two hours on first login to Era. within that two hours you can't be hurt or do damage?

cbk1994 06-02-2008 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1393790)
hmm i could add newbie protection for two hours on first login to Era. within that two hours you can't be hurt or do damage?

Yes, because 2 hours is enough time to get $200,000.

Plus, most :noob:'s don't know where to start, and it takes them a while to figure it out, especially if they don't have friends (first time playing).

[email protected] 06-02-2008 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1393806)
Yes, because 2 hours is enough time to get $200,000.

Plus, most :noob:'s don't know where to start, and it takes them a while to figure it out, especially if they don't have friends (first time playing).

what would you recommend? [time wise]

cbk1994 06-02-2008 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1393808)
what would you recommend? [time wise]

Two hours would be enough time if there was some kind of introduction (introduces them to the ways to make money).

[email protected] 06-02-2008 04:28 PM

hmm will make for reset

Crono 06-02-2008 04:41 PM

lollin @ 50hp => 10hp => 100hp in the past 2 years

[email protected] 06-02-2008 04:45 PM

i'd make urs 225 crono he he he ^^ ^^

Crono 06-02-2008 04:46 PM

LoL SID U FLIRT MACHIN U ^____^

DustyPorViva 06-02-2008 04:57 PM

I'd say just give them newbie protection until they attack some one, or for 24 hours? That's the thing about newbie protection on Era, it's always been so useless... wasn't it like, 15 minutes when it was first released?

Either way, you can also keep tabs on how much money the player earns, and after they eran a certain amount, disable newbie protection?

cbk1994 06-02-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1393837)
I'd say just give them newbie protection until they attack some one, or for 24 hours? That's the thing about newbie protection on Era, it's always been so useless... wasn't it like, 15 minutes when it was first released?

Either way, you can also keep tabs on how much money the player earns, and after they eran a certain amount, disable newbie protection?

Until they attack someone --- no way.

If you're trying to figure out the controls, and know that S might do something ...

Rufus 06-02-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1393842)
Until they attack someone --- no way.

If you're trying to figure out the controls, and know that S might do something ...

Disable possible player hurting functions until they manually disable "newbie mode" with the exception of events they participate in?

DustyPorViva 06-02-2008 05:12 PM

I prefer my last suggestion the most... but that's still a poor reason. The chance that someone is next to someone else and just happens to 'try and find out what S does' and hit them, while having a knife equipped, doesn't seem that probable.

Rufus 06-02-2008 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1393845)
I prefer my last suggestion the most... but that's still a poor reason. The chance that someone is next to someone else and just happens to 'try and find out what S does' and hit them, while having a knife equipped, doesn't seem that probable.

You can attack on Era without a weapon though, I think.

Crono 06-02-2008 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus (Post 1393846)
You can attack on Era without a weapon though, I think.

You can fist people.

Rufus 06-02-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1393847)
You can fist people.

BRLLNT! caps

DustyPorViva 06-02-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1393847)
You can fist people.

OH HO HO, YOU'RE SO CLEVER! :P

Darklux 06-02-2008 05:28 PM

I think era should be more player friendly:
- Tutorials for Jobs and Fighting
- Instead of the current mafia families, which are built up by friends of the management or staffs, players should start in one family. The leadership could be determined by elections.
There could be a grace bar, like in gta2, and you can work yourself up for better family weapons or ranks; eras nepotism system is very primitive.
- Intelligent systems to prevent new resets: resets might be necessary, yet they hurt the game and some people will always loose interest in the game.

cbk1994 06-02-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Crono (Post 1393847)
You can fist people.

ROFL

I agree, Era needs some kind of tutorial.

TSAdmin 06-04-2008 02:29 AM

There's comments about a "Newbie Course" already put together. HoudiniMan had brought up the same thing, once. It offers information about making money, PKing, and getting the player started once they're finished the newbie course. Of course, the course, itself, would be seperate from the gameplay GMAP, and could also include the ability to copylevel so that 2 players would never be in the same Newbie course at the same time, but the course would not be different in any way. I'm sure Andrew could handle something like that, maybe, as far as scripting goes. Pretty sure the levels exist (or should, anyway)

cbk1994 06-04-2008 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by TSAdmin (Post 1394247)
There's comments about a "Newbie Course" already put together. HoudiniMan had brought up the same thing, once. It offers information about making money, PKing, and getting the player started once they're finished the newbie course. Of course, the course, itself, would be seperate from the gameplay GMAP, and could also include the ability to copylevel so that 2 players would never be in the same Newbie course at the same time, but the course would not be different in any way. I'm sure Andrew could handle something like that, maybe, as far as scripting goes. Pretty sure the levels exist (or should, anyway)

Depending on how it's scripted, may be able to disable display of nicknames, chat, etc, and set everyone else's alpha to zero.

copylevel() for each new player seems like it might be overkill.

If nothing else, have a set of 20 or so, and make more as needed.

xTcDiabloxTc 06-10-2008 07:14 AM

In response to the original poster, and not to be rude, but this sounds like someone who just isn't very good at PKing on Era and wants to blame their frustration on the guns other players are using.

There is a player by the name of Mafia Ninja (Starcrafter999) who is an absolute god with handguns, and can pretty much take on any weapon.

I myself, can go up against just about anything with an uzi and survive, often victoriously.

cbk1994 06-10-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by xTcDiabloxTc (Post 1396091)
In response to the original poster, and not to be rude, but this sounds like someone who just isn't very good at PKing on Era and wants to blame their frustration on the guns other players are using.

There is a player by the name of Mafia Ninja (Starcrafter999) who is an absolute god with handguns, and can pretty much take on any weapon.

I myself, can go up against just about anything with an uzi and survive, often victoriously.

No, I am not the best.

However, the points I outlined are valid.

I suppose it is possible to defeat someone with a handgun, however, it takes much more skill than it used to; this is because the weapons are so unbalanced now.

Sinkler 07-27-2008 07:22 PM

I must agree with Chris. Icarus, you're pointing out one person. But, about 100 people play Era, 1/100 is good with handguns, isn't that sort of weird?
Also, I think that Era should implement a tax-system for businesses, because business owners make loads of money (Syzmic) and they also add to to the problem. They get guns faster than anyone else, they make more money than anyone else without doing AS much work. Maybe stock a little but thats it.

I think that the swear filter should be IMPLEMENTED because Erians need to start behaving. We're literally like the stereo-typical American. I swear, I go on Val. and it's like England.
We need to be more like Val in the sense of behaviour.

Thanks,
Gabriel Rubeus


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