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Taharu 04-09-2004 07:08 AM

Spells
 
As a Barbarian of brigid it came to my attention once i got to the medium level that most of her spells aren't working and two of her spells will never be able ot work. Resurrection and Raise dead both come to you on medium level. (resurrection was not supposed to come til high but they switched with peace). neither will ever be enabled because permanent death is not on the server so there is no one to raise from the dead. Because of this I was thinking of solutions to this, problem. Myself and Surekth were thinking of solutions to this problem. We came up with two replacement spells that seem reasonable and do-able on the server. One spell being sunspear, Dian Cecht recieves sunspear at medium level as well, and it only seems natural that brigid worshippers recieve it as well at medium level rather then one of the spells that don't work. Most of brigid is nature related and sunspear seems appropriate especially since you recieve Gloves of the Sun +1 at medium level (which is great hehe). The other spell would be a summoning spell since she is attuned to summoning. Surekth had did this one out in his head... "Summon Natures Guardians" which would summon panthers and sabre tooth tigers.... those monsters are stronger then other monsters in map and (shhhh don't tell anyone. ;))but they even can kill big worms in brutals. They are also weaker then avatars of all kind thus making them... on the level they should be for such a spell granted by the god who is attuned to summoning?. i think this is very appropriate. But i won't get many supporters because of the fact that im one of few brigid worshippers...and the only one of them all that has reached medium level :(

Taharu 04-09-2004 07:10 AM

oh and the gloves do add wc =D. but they dont add fire damage

--Chris-- 06-07-2004 07:23 AM

Brigid needs to be compramised for her ineffective resistances here. Her main advantage on CF is being able to die without losing EXP or so, on here you don't lose period. Maybe give her resist magic+30?

Muha_builder 06-07-2004 08:28 AM

Diancecht. :rolleyes:

Limelight Panda 06-09-2004 11:51 PM

Yeah, I just got brigids medium level spells +gloves today.. but I didn't get peace (*wonders why*) brigid is alright, you almost have no way to level up unless you have summon avatar, and her gloves aren't the best since there have been other alchemy items.. like havoks with wc/ac, and I just saw a HSoD with Con on it.. and then gloves of the bandit, but in the end, she is a good god, could be better like ogma or so.. but I doubt anything would be done, yet.

Monkeyboy_McGee 06-10-2004 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Limelight Panda
Yeah, I just got brigids medium level spells +gloves today.. but I didn't get peace (*wonders why*) brigid is alright, you almost have no way to level up unless you have summon avatar, and her gloves aren't the best since there have been other alchemy items.. like havoks with wc/ac, and I just saw a HSoD with Con on it.. and then gloves of the bandit, but in the end, she is a good god, could be better like ogma or so.. but I doubt anything would be done, yet.

Ogma is too powerful.

GoZelda 06-17-2004 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeyboy_McGee
Ogma is too powerful.

So is Zoe.

xAndrewx 05-08-2005 01:31 PM

So, what's happaning to the spells what have no use? (Ressurection etc)

Raziel 05-10-2005 10:19 AM

Man, I hate Brigid... just wanted to point that out.

Snakeandy7 05-10-2005 11:37 AM

I personally don't know her.

ReBorn_Spirit 05-17-2005 07:54 AM

Let me just point out a few things about Brigid, that I have been with for about a good year now. First of all, SHE, is not a "god" but a Goddess. About these gloves, yea shure you can get better... for a barbarian, Brigid is more for the white mages then a player killing barbarian ok. You cannot truely start off with jus brigid unless you know what you are doing. If you need a more literal translation for that.. SORRY NEW PEOPLE DONT USE THIS GODDESS. No offense to anyone please...

xAndrewx 05-17-2005 07:59 AM

What about the spells?
What ones work?

ReBorn_Spirit 05-17-2005 08:17 AM

I got Peace, it works, on what.. mm well not much but yea.. I guess you could use it to run around in an immense.

Sanctuary is the infamous ANTI-Magic field the Brigid priests use, that works great with a Govannon archer in a party on any map with magic... not so great for brutals.

Gloves, well these are more for the white mage that needs just a little extra backup attack. Don't look to make it a main weapon, they all have a limit you know.

Insect plague and thorn wall... well they are somewhat defective.. but working, the insect plauge explodes.. and thorn wall makes a little line of traps. Not so great to use just yet.

The spell Ironwood Skin will add about twice as much as the armour spell will for AC... Unless you have AC to the point it doesnt affect this anymore. But like the real white mages, it is helpful when your out training a level 1-8 friend with little armour.

Ok.. what else is there you want to know??

**As far as I know there arent many other spells Brigid will give you that you don't use or are just plain disabled, and yea I may have forgotten one, thats because im really tired right now(lol).

xAndrewx 05-18-2005 11:40 AM

lol, thanks. Brigid needs a 'face lift'.

ReBorn_Spirit 09-02-2007 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Taharu (Post 960235)
oh and the gloves do add wc =D. but they dont add fire damage

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Originally Posted by Limelight Panda (Post 975501)
Yeah, I just got brigids medium level spells +gloves today.. but I didn't get peace (*wonders why*) brigid is alright, you almost have no way to level up unless you have summon avatar, and her gloves aren't the best since there have been other alchemy items.. like havoks with wc/ac, and I just saw a HSoD with Con on it.. and then gloves of the bandit, but in the end, she is a good god, could be better like ogma or so.. but I doubt anything would be done, yet.

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Originally Posted by xAndrewx (Post 1071327)
lol, thanks. Brigid needs a 'face lift'.

The Thorns that brigid gives you can actually kill bomy lords with now, thats a low level grace award too. 100 / 50

As for the gloves, they still are unbeatable, and they do infact give you fire damage if you don't have karate. If you do you need to use something like punching or jumping to actually use the fire damage. IE - > "/useskill jumping"
I find I do more damage then most of my friends around the same phisical level as I.

The Avatar is actaully too fast for its own good now, sure its nice, but insane to control.

You do infact resist all of biles wounding spells, infact any gods wounding spells have no effect on brigid. The 90 some physical resistance you get, actually has no effect at all on the entire server, until its fixed don't plan on the physical resistance to help you. It IS possible to start with brigid, if you want to kill skeletons with friends helping you, until you can get your wall of thorns. Then with wall of thorns you can move up to things like trex and eventually lords and on to your avatar.

Tools are actually useable with brigid, even the pickaxe. It doesnt make any difference, as the gloves and punch still kill just about anything that isnt a player. I suppose if I had a better phyisique level I might be able to hit players with my fists.

Keep in mind, Brigid's holy word and holy orb only effect bile players (supposed to) and skeletons. If cult monsters ever appeared they would also be wounded by a Brigid followers holy wounds. Also the bannishment does the same as holy word, however has a chance to either instantly kill the skeleton or completely miss them, would recommend holy word anyways.

The rest is all good bonuses to brigid, unless you want to use weapons of course. Brigid would make excellent party support, however party system is not good beyond level 20, until they fix that.

Revontulet 03-04-2008 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by ReBorn_Spirit (Post 1345258)
The Avatar is actaully too fast for its own good now, sure its nice, but insane to control.

Indeed.
I'm a follower of Brigid and I use Avatar to clear maps, well I try to.
The avatar moves so quickly it's very difficult to guide into certain enemies.

Sky 03-28-2008 12:49 AM

Hrm, fix brigid, plx :(

Felix_Xenophobe 04-08-2009 09:40 AM

Would be pretty neat if wall of thorns only slowed down your enemies when walking through it. As of now it slows down both yourself and your enemies which makes it VERY situational because of it's long cast time.

Also the avatar should be slowed down a little because it's really hard to actually kill stuff with it.

Draenin 04-08-2009 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GoZelda
So is Zoe.

Vitriol is done with Balor, not Ogma. Zoe followed Balor.
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Originally Posted by ReBorn Spirit
You do infact resist all of biles wounding spells, infact any gods wounding spells have no effect on brigid.

Wounding hurts you. Diseases don't.

--Chris-- 07-22-2009 10:08 AM

So I just logged back on GK cause I was feeling Nostalgic and lost my "Gloves of the Sun" on a trade table lol :(

MajinDragon 07-23-2009 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by --Chris-- (Post 1509413)
So I just logged back on GK cause I was feeling Nostalgic and lost my "Gloves of the Sun" on a trade table lol :(

:cry: u wanna borrow gear to get them back?

vidar 03-03-2010 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Draenin (Post 1482308)
Vitriol is done with Balor, not Ogma. Zoe followed Balor.
Wounding hurts you. Diseases don't.

diseases affect brigid followers now as well.

Seeya 04-19-2010 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vidar (Post 1560309)
diseases affect brigid followers now as well.

Not biles.

Deas_Voice 08-21-2010 10:50 PM

bump, give brigid melee wep ... or let us use weapons in events, such as spar ect..

cyan3 08-21-2010 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1595664)
bump, give brigid melee wep ... or let us use weapons in events, such as spar ect..

The whole point of Brigid is to not use any weapons, plus the gloves would be too over powered if used with weapons.

Seeya 08-21-2010 11:51 PM

I agree, weapons + brigid is nuts, i just wish we had some way to combat being cursed.. it makes me useless for 10+ minutes.

Deas_Voice 08-22-2010 12:01 AM

well excuse me for not having those gloves then <>_<>

Seeya 08-22-2010 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1595673)
well excuse me for not having those gloves then <>_<>

+2dex +2wc +2ac +2dmg :D

cyan3 08-22-2010 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deas_Voice (Post 1595673)
well excuse me for not having those gloves then <>_<>

gloves are ez to get. I'll lend you the gear to get them if you want.

Gothika 08-22-2010 01:06 AM

Brigid with a weapon would be a total all-round brute. They are already the best mages so making them the best warriors too would be a big mistake.

Fulg0reSama 08-22-2010 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1595686)
Brigid with a weapon would be a total all-round brute. They are already the best mages so making them the best warriors too would be a big mistake.

they would become paladins. or Sword Sages

Gothika 08-22-2010 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1595689)
they would become paladins. or Sword Sages

Typically those kind of classes are a jack-of-two-trades, master of neither. A brigid worshipper with a weapon would be a complete master of both.

Fulg0reSama 08-22-2010 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gothika (Post 1595690)
Typically those kind of classes are a jack-of-two-trades, master of neither. A brigid worshipper with a weapon would be a complete master of both.

How balanced is GK may I ask?

Soala 08-22-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Fulg0reSama (Post 1595691)
How balanced is GK may I ask?

You can't use the word "balanced" for anything if you play GK.

kia345 08-22-2010 01:54 AM

Priesty maces what can only be 1/3 as much as a regular weapon. They also can't be blessed, but have random attack types

Do this

Supaman771 08-22-2010 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1595695)
Priesty maces what can only be 1/3 as much as a regular weapon. They also can't be blessed, but have random attack types

Do this

2 handed Quarterstaff

Long range, low damage, no magical benefits, slow attack, but an attack nonetheless.

Could be one of each element (with that attack type) requiring those items for crafting (weaponmagic = diamonds, fire = rubies, ice = sapphires, etc)

Deas_Voice 08-22-2010 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cyan3 (Post 1595682)
gloves are ez to get. I'll lend you the gear to get them if you want.

yes please.

MajinDragon 08-22-2010 03:15 AM

If Brigid were allowed a melee weapon it should only be in the form of a single relic, not access to all melee weapons. I like the sound of a 2 handed quarterstaff, would make it so Brigid's shield, or any shield, can't be used in conjunction with the relic weapon. Or dual wield fist weapon.

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Originally Posted by Seeya (Post 1595669)
wish we had some way to combat being cursed.. it makes me useless for 10+ minutes.

Curse just lasts way too long, but it's definitely necessary against a 1hit spell.

Deas_Voice 08-22-2010 03:17 AM

yeah, a weapon as a relic' for low-leveld imo, since the glove it harder to get.

Seeya 10-25-2010 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MajinDragon (Post 1595707)
If Brigid were allowed a melee weapon it should only be in the form of a single relic, not access to all melee weapons. I like the sound of a 2 handed quarterstaff, would make it so Brigid's shield, or any shield, can't be used in conjunction with the relic weapon. Or dual wield fist weapon.



Curse just lasts way too long, but it's definitely necessary against a 1hit spell.

Brass knuckles for Brigid. (lol'd)


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