Re: Re: programming
 

img hosted by tripod @_@ what a GREAT script ;p
j/kj/k I've seen the script and it's leet :D

heh
 

math is a major part of coding?

Is someone paying you more than $20,000 a year
to make graal 3D engine npcs?

I rest my case.


btw try to avoid too much multiplication.
The microchip circut nand-based gateways
for multiplying use the most processing time.

I remember seeing your 3d engine,
very nicely done.

Just that you do not have to be good at math
to be a good programmer.

HERE IS THE SCREENSHOT

Re: heh
 

Dude. That's a small salary. And besides, you're a web guy. That's not exactly taxing programming. If you wanna do anything complicated, you need to know what 1+1 equals.

Oh, god, stop. It might work on the little kids, but anyone who's ever programmed seriously knows that multiplication is more expensive than addition. Trying to explain it in long words isn't going to impress anybody older than twelve. I've designed a processor from scratch, I don't need you throwing jargon at me.

This is a new one, as it happens.

Well, it really depends on how you look at it. You could be great at coding simple things like sorts and searches, but if you can't code complicated models then you're not a good programmer. As soon as you start placing boundaries on what you can do, you diminish your worth as a coder.

you DO need great math skills to become a GREAT programmer, I'll use myself and kaimetsu as an example
me - I think I'm a pretty good script, but I'm not that great as math (since I'm only 14, haven't learned it all yet), I know how to use the commands and such but I cant do all the formulas needed to make things like that new 3d engine that kaimetsu has made that requires mathimatical skills

kaimetsu - great scripter, knows how to work the commands AND has math skills so he can script AND throw in math

You can master the commands but in order to make realy great things that are beyond the commands base use, you need math skills, like for that 3d orb kaimetsu made, it uses basic showimg,changeimgvis/colors/zoom but it is going beyond the basic use of the command since math formulas to make it have a 3d effect are in place

1) Genesis you shouldn't even bother attempting to work for them. Remember when you were working with us on Everworld and you were fired for a stupid tile error.

2) RPing is not gonna go anywhere on N-Pulse.
Half the server will be jailed for cursing and eventually banned. 90% of the staff will get fired for the stuff they will be doing without their tags during RP. Don't tell me this won't happen either. Moon Goddess knows herself that most players on N-Pulse can't think straight.
That's one of the main reasons I hardly play there anymore. I've been going all around to different playerworlds to see which ones are good, and sadly the only ones worth playing are Rudora, Maloria, and the Gold Servers.

3) I will go to RP Island and pk everyone that goes there since there's nothing else original/creative or worthwhile to do there.

As for quests being unoriginal. It's so true. Nothing but carry the pot, bush, whatever, stupid riddles, kill the baddies, touch the million doors until you reach the end.

Re: programming
 

Holy cow that's some good money for being just a webmaster. What country do you live in?

There is no point being lat on N-Pulse - . -
All the good jobs just go to the players.

you obviously have not been reading this thread. you will have to have a kingdom tag on to get to RP Island. And from everworld. thats a different story. he was fired for stealign graphicsa nd scrweing up half the levels with his tile errors

nand gate
 

you made a processor from scratch?
How was the silicon crystal growing process
and the pathway etching?
or what level did you work on to make that
processor, how much could it do?
I knew a guy who was into efficent
accelerated siligon growth for thak kind of stuff.

What makes a good programmer?
Look at Bill Gates. He bought DOS
off his friend and tweaked it some.
Windows is jsut a graphical
representation of DOS.
Hes worth billions, and has defined
what a successful software engineer
is: one who can make a boatload
of money selling a program that
people will want.

Graphics applications, as Graal and
video games and CAD all are,
yes they require a lot of math.
I can do matricies, remember some calculus,
trig, play with sin and cos,
deciaml-hex-octal-binary conversion,
but is there any one specific example
that you think defines a good programmer?
I think its more complex than that.

I have written reliable code,
perl scipts, that have run more
than a million times,
each one about four pages
of code for text parsing and searching
-but thats what most web code is.

Graal code for a 3-d modeling engine
looks really cool, but will it go online
in a server? How would multiple
users interact with it?

Part of good programing is using the
software development package you have
and making something practical with it
for its intended end use (multiplayer enviromnent.)

If you could port the algorithm for the 3-d engine you
made to VB or C++, then you might have something
cool that individual shareware users could have fun with.
And they couldn't see the source casue it would be compiled.

Its cool that i'm not the only one on graal
who knows what a nand gate is, heh.

And im not trying to use technical jargon,
I know exactly what i am saying and I expect
you to understand it too, being a high level programmer and
understanding lower level bitwise processing.
dosent everybody? Its fun making karnaughmaps,
finding the most efficnent binary combinations
and laying the 7400 series chips onthe breadboard,
at least I think so. what kind of building blocks
were your processor made from?

What the hell??????????????
We are getting outside help with scripting because sparker has been busy with the npc server, omg I cant believe you said that!

Re: nand gate
 

:eek: wow!

Yes, sorry.
That did not come out right. I didnt mean that in that way at all.
I was just having a bad day, so people can just ignore my pervious message. - . -

Whoa. Ducati started posting on the Graal forums!

=)

Re: nand gate
 

I said I designed one. Actually creating it would've been pointless. I'm not looking to run AMD out of business - it was only an eight-bit doodah - but I'm certainly not going to be blinded by a few simple pieces of jargon.

Gates is a good programmer, maybe, but he's rich because he's a good businessman and opportunist, and because he was in the right place at the right time. Being a good programmer is about being able to program a wide range of applications quickly and efficiently.

Obviously it's more complex, but the fundamental is this: Putting limits on what you can code puts limits on how good a programmer you can be. And when you have to borrow somebody else's code just to make a circle in Graal, those limits are quite restrictive.

Excellent, good for you. I have no doubt that you're a perfectly competent web programmer.

The tentative plan is to make a whole 3D world for them to explore. Multiple users would be easy to code - creating the actual engine is the only hard part.

Yes indeed, and that's what I'm doing. People can have fun with it in Graal, I don't need to resort to C++ or VB, and it's fun to push back the limits of what has been achieved within GScript.

*shrugs*

Well, whichever, it just sounded as though that was your intention.

Well, I already said above, but I can elaborate. I designed it using a tool whose name I forget as part of a University course. We were given some fundamental help at first, until we could manage simple things like flip-flops and multibit adders, and then we were left to ourselves. The thing did little more than add and subtract and store and retrieve, but that was really all the course asked and I'd have run out of time if I tried anything more.

Question: It doesn't bother me, so I'm not complaining about it, but why do you manually end your lines instead of letting them wrap?

O.o


before this i had never seen moonie cuss



cool

Deathchill.....:grrr: *stabs thru the neck* If I wanted any plans I was doing on Npulse I would have posted them myself...
But since you have let the proverbal cat out of the bag on some of it , I might as well explain it , Yes Npulse would have a "core world" which is old Npulse , this is what the older players of Npulse wanted and will remain the same. Around this core will be large Islands of different themes , one of which will be RP , others I will not go into at this time unless "someone" opens their mouth about it. Npulse will be a Multi-Theme PW , mini pws within the PW , the theme will be restricted to within that "area " as not to interfere with the Main World or other themes online. Npulse will be geared to Entertainment and if it must have a theme serverwide this is what it is. I will NOT make Npulse a RP server because only really a few like RP servers and will not be popular. Right now this "team" is not staff on Npulse and will not have any Staff powers , I only gave them permission to develop a RP Island
I will look at what they are making and to be honest will have to be really good for me to accept it , I am very picky much worse than Moon Goddess about levels, I will not take crap or mediocore levels or ideas , they will have to be well above average . Players pay to play on all Graal and I believe they deserve no less. I don't want ANY old worn out ideas already online and will reject any attempt toward that direction. There are postions open on Npulse; but anyone on this Team if it is their desire to be on Staff on Npulse will have to apply and earn it as anyone else would , I just don't hand out Staff jobs. And as far as any high Staff jobs , ppl right off the game never have and never will get them , to obtain a high Staff job you have to earn the trust and respect of the Players and all Staff alike if I were to even consider someone. I have some levels for one of the other Islands and may be up soon and when you see the Quailty of the levels as well as it being a "fresh" new idea not done you will see why I want this RP done right and will accept no less. So good luck to all who participate in this endeavor and I hope it turns out well .

Oh yeah, prozac made it. He ownz at npcs. So as of right now its me,peg leg,prozac

we need a tag adder uploaded for us

Shavo:

I find it funny that Joker was on babylon (if this is the same Joker that was on babylon) came on and started asking staff what was coming up. We all basically told him an RP island, which has been in development for 2 weeks now. Now I come here and see that N-Pulse is doing the same thing? Hmm. I'm not accusing you of Stealing the idea, because I know you've had the Idea of RP since last summer when I worked there, but you don't really have to take our idea of an island, could just put a river inbetween the two worlds, make a password system that saves your NPC's etc. when you go into RP world and all your PK world stuff is deleted and vica versa when going back to PK world. Or at least that is what Babylon is doing (not the river, but the login system).

This "idea" was not born anytime soon and was in the works for some time "Joker" only found out it recently and I am not stealing any ideas nor am I changing anything , there are right now 4 major Islands involved in what I am doing each different and is in no way the same as Babylon just because "one" of the Isands happen to be a RP and has been planned for months not weeks , I have just been working on another Island first and the RP Island is taking a backseat to it or the group of players who want to develop it can . Ask Nemesis about it he has known about this for some time , so don't even ask me to change what I am doing , it is a major project and I won't, besides the only thing simular will be its a Island nothing else and I could accuse Baybylon off stealing my Idea but that is petty and stupid. Some people like myself keep those things out of the Forums for a reason but if you look hard enough serveral weeks ago it was posted on the Forum.But like I said I am not that petty about us using the same idea even though publicly my idea was posted long before yours in the Managers Forum. Maybe your Managers saw it?? ummm

Shavow I was the one developing RP Island anyhow I was Kingdom Admin

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but you don't really have to take our idea of an island, could just put a river inbetween the two worlds

that is what you said, observe^
you typed it, now drop it

Unless Sparker is making it I don't think it will make it on N-Pulse. The rest of staff can't seem to complete projects without taking a year to do so.

;) :p

Making good things takes time, and it wont take a year....we have had alot of trouble getting staff to finish things in the past, but we dont have those staff anymore, so hopefully it will be different now...Sparker is great :)

What about Blue Knight?
He made a 6 level quest or something. First level was shoot the 6 dragon baddies with 10 arrows. I still don't see how that was supposed to be done. I lagged my way into the next room since there was no way of using 10 arrows to shoot 6 dragon baddies.

Next room. Hit the NPC baddy with a bush 6 times or something.
The following 2 rooms was something where you have to touch the warps to reach the end. The first ones was ridiculous. The second part of touch the warps was okay since there was sort of a pattern to it.
The last room pisses me off. lol. I killed the guy and he says the prize is in the entrance. I go back to the entrance and start massing like crazy to see where the prize is and people tell me to just reach the last level and touch the bottom right wall and you get warped to another room for the prize ... Magical Bolt. It's the lightning version of the Kamehameha. :/

I hope you get on him about whatever he makes. He sure did take a long time to make that quest. Most people with even lesser scripting abilities than him could have made that entire quest in one hour. The only part of it that may have tooken time was the scripting for the 2 baddies.

Gee, its a quest where you actually have to think...too much for you I guess.....the first part says you only get 10 arrows to kill the baddies, not that you have to use the arrows to kill the baddies.........THINK...........the second part is kinda hard, yea you have to kill his scripted baddie with a bush, to get out, third part, go through the right doors in the right order, and so on.........as for the last part, the sign says to go to the end of the hallway, not go to the end, and turn to the other hallway...........THINK.............the quest was made with imagination, and the weapon was to be a part to another quest up and coming
Before you say the baddies at the beginning cannot be killed without the arrows, I am going to tell you that they can. This is one of our better quests, that requires players to think, sorry that makes you mad
Blue knight is a great scripter, and has a great imagination....you on the other hand do not

I like moonie and all but being offended by "Hello Clarice" is just weird =/

I wasnt offended, trust me......it is pretty dumb to send someone a private message with that in it, it just got deleted...actually the several stupid ones that he sent me in the last few days has just gotten deleted, no problem here :)

I am not going to bother posting anymore replies to Shavo he is just looking for someone to argue with , But what did you mean by that statement about Moonie? Somehow I missed the meaning of it , err could you enlighten me?

N/M Moonie pointed it out to me :rolleyes:

scared?
I said "stop pming me" cause its dumb to keep sending pointless pms, and I didnt say stop threatening me, because you werent

Shavo and moonie. I suggest you stop.

Perhaps I could help by deleting your posts?

I apologize Toranksu

Toran you become all strict now that you mod =( COME BACK OLD TORAN

he is doing his job

he dun have to be THAT strict

what authority do you to tell him how he should do his job?

just stating an opinion im not telling him to do ANYTHING