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Twinny 01-06-2009 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1454891)
Everything is on the same network.

It's a switch. Miraculous!

DustyPorViva 01-06-2009 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1454892)
It's a switch. Miraculous!

Funny thing, that. It says right on there that it is a wireless G-router.

Twinny 01-06-2009 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1454894)
Funny thing, that. It says right on there that it is a wireless G-router.

Routers switch packets between different networks. 192.168.1.1/24 to 192.168.2.1/24

It is capable of a router but it's not routing. Hell, it might be capable of token ring but you wouldn't run around saying you were using a token ring network now would you? Routing causes overhead as it has to open up packets to examine it.

The end point was how stupid it would be to have your home network split into two segments with your computer on one side and your internet access on another as this would cause a delay (although, this is still nominal).

DustyPorViva 01-06-2009 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1454897)
Routers switch packets between different networks. 192.168.1.1/24 to 192.168.2.1/24

It is capable of a router but it's not routing. Hell, it might be capable of token ring but you wouldn't run around saying you were using a token ring network now would you? Routing causes overhead as it has to open up packets to examine it.

The end point was how stupid it would be to have your home network split into two segments with your computer on one side and your internet access on another as this would cause a delay (although, this is still nominal).

Oh, in that case yes they are on different networks. I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to this, but I do know I use a router and a modem.

Twinny 01-06-2009 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1454899)
Oh, in that case yes they are on different networks. I'm not that knowledgeable when it comes to this, but I do know I use a router and a modem.

I'd put the modem on the same network address as your computer, have whatever is dishing out DHCP (assuming the router/switch) to set your default gateway as the modem and make use bridging for all wireless devices. Becomes a pure switched network :)

DustyPorViva 01-06-2009 12:49 AM

I'd say the best way to stop the lag is to stop browsing porn and getting all that spyware junk on your computer, taking up all your internet resources ;)

CharlieM 01-06-2009 12:54 AM

uhm..Call me crazy but modems are plugged into a cable line unless you use one internet linkage at a time you have to have a router, also to get wifi you require a router if you don't have a network nearby. I know my internet requires a modem to access

Twinny 01-06-2009 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by CharlieM (Post 1454909)
uhm..Call me crazy but modems are plugged into a cable line unless you use one internet linkage at a time you have to have a router, also to get wifi you require a router if you don't have a network nearby. I know my internet requires a modem to access


Does your modem have a interface address? i.e. can it be contacted on, say, 172.16.1.1? If so, it doesn't sound like you need a router: just a switch.

Alot of home networking solutions do use a router/switch/wireless combination (pure convenience) but, depending on setup, it might not be providing router-based functions.

My router is as it's the link between my home 10.x.x.x network and a public network (interwubz) via broadband (phoneline).

CharlieM 01-06-2009 01:27 AM

I have a bunch of stuff running off of my internet that require cables as well as wireless network is required right now. My main problem is though my internet provider requires I use there modem

cbk1994 01-06-2009 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1454883)
"and then disconnect the router from the modem." what sort of ****house network is this? Why do you have a router AND a modem?

Computer -> Router/Switch combo -> interwubz
Computer -> Switch -> Router -> interwubz
Computer -> modem -> interwubz
Computer -> router -> modem? -> failure!

Makes absolutely no sense.

I agree that it's silly to use a modem when a router can handle this; however, my ISP will not let me use the modem in bridge mode and the router as the modem. The only way to get wireless in my house without both a modem and wireless gateway/router is to pay an extra $15 a month for them to give me some junky Linksys router with their sticker on it.

Twinny 01-06-2009 01:44 AM

Just to make a point on the original topic of this whole thread....

Latency is caused at the ISP level. Speeding up your computer will not help this. It may help dealing with large amounts of packets but it will improve your ping latency.

Open up a command/terminal prompt. Use either tracert(windows) or traceroute(linux and possibly mac?) to trace a path to something like google or even a graal server. You'll notice that the results will jump considerably when it hits the ISP level but will remain incredibly small at the LAN level.

DustyPorViva 01-06-2009 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1454923)
I agree that it's silly to use a modem when a router can handle this; however, my ISP will not let me use the modem in bridge mode and the router as the modem. The only way to get wireless in my house without both a modem and wireless gateway/router is to pay an extra $15 a month for them to give me some junky Linksys router with their sticker on it.

How the hell can a router handle an internet connection like cable or even DSL?

Twinny 01-06-2009 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1454931)
How the hell can a router handle an internet connection like cable or even DSL?

This, again, is the power of combination! Alot of routers have an inbuilt DSL modem :). Should we just start calling them router/switch/wireless/modem/fire-totem? :D

DustyPorViva 01-06-2009 01:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Twinny (Post 1454934)
This, again, is the power of combination! Alot of routers have an inbuilt DSL modem :). Should we just start calling them router/switch/wireless/modem/fire-totem? :D

Well in that case you're still using a modem/router combo, they're just in the same box.

Twinny 01-06-2009 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1454935)
Well in that case you're still using a modem/router combo, they're just in the same box.

But it's not going 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.2.1 to 203.45.32.232 as I originally thought this thread suggested.


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