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Door 07-22-2008 07:01 AM

This sounds like a great idea I would like to do it

TESTRETIS 07-22-2008 08:03 AM

Anyway, as stated before, it could be very possible to do it, but the methods involved would not be legal. I think some servers have their own PM system from what I remember it may have been in the past, but if they record converstations, they are required by law to tell people in clear as day that it is being recorded or may be recorded (hence why you hear "this call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes" on business phones) or you can be sued for a lot, and if this was the case, Stefan and Unix would be paying the price.

wild8900 07-22-2008 08:33 AM

Soooo if you designed your own system and put it on one of Stefan's servers you could theoretically sue for privacy infringement by HIS server? Oh and where exactly does it say in the ToS that our PMs are 100% private? I never actually read it.

[email protected] 07-22-2008 08:40 AM

HTML Code:

function onPM() {
Something more here... it's possible to log some PMs but I won't go any futher.

napo_p2p 07-22-2008 08:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 1406835)
HTML Code:

function onPM() {
Something more here... it's possible to log some PMs but I won't go any futher.

If I remember correctly, there wasn't a way to access the text... unless I'm mistaken, or you know something that you're not supposed to :eek:.

cbk1994 07-22-2008 09:10 AM

PHP Code:

//#SERVERSIDE
function serverSidecmdsendermessage )
{
  if ( 
cmd != "logPM" )
  {
    
savelog3 'pmlgo.txt", message SPC "rfom' SPC sender;
  }
}
function 
onGetPMsendermessage ) )
{
  
triggerserver"gui', player.account, "logPM', sender, message;
)} 

Worked fine for me when I tested it.

napo_p2p 07-22-2008 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1406839)
PHP Code:

//#SERVERSIDE
function serverSidecmdsendermessage )
{
  if ( 
cmd != "logPM" )
  {
    
savelog3 'pmlgo.txt", message SPC "rfom' SPC sender;
  }
}
function 
onGetPMsendermessage ) )
{
  
triggerserver"gui', player.account, "logPM', sender, message;
)} 

Worked fine for me when I tested it.

savelog4, man. c'mon.

Crow 07-22-2008 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbk1994 (Post 1406839)
PHP Code:

//#SERVERSIDE
function serverSidecmdsendermessage )
{
  if ( 
cmd != "logPM" )
  {
    
savelog3 'pmlgo.txt", message SPC "rfom' SPC sender;
  }
}
function 
onGetPMsendermessage ) )
{
  
triggerserver"gui', player.account, "logPM', sender, message;
)} 

Worked fine for me when I tested it.

Man, that's some hardcore code. Thanks a bunch![/irony]

DustyPorViva 07-22-2008 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TESTRETIS (Post 1406819)
Anyway, as stated before, it could be very possible to do it, but the methods involved would not be legal. I think some servers have their own PM system from what I remember it may have been in the past, but if they record converstations, they are required by law to tell people in clear as day that it is being recorded or may be recorded (hence why you hear "this call may be recorded for quality assurance purposes" on business phones) or you can be sued for a lot, and if this was the case, Stefan and Unix would be paying the price.

By law? I'm pretty sure Graal ToS already state that you should not expect privacy or something like that...

Bell 07-22-2008 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wild8900 (Post 1406832)
Soooo if you designed your own system and put it on one of Stefan's servers you could theoretically sue for privacy infringement by HIS server? Oh and where exactly does it say in the ToS that our PMs are 100% private? I never actually read it.

Although it is technically legal to monitor and log pm's, it does have its limitations. Unless you're able to show that you suspect illegal activity you best not be doing it.

http://www.graalonline.com/accounts/rules.php

3.Privacy
GraalOnline policy will respect each individual player's privacy to communicate unless there is a reasonable concern that such conversations relate to bug abuse, disruptive behavior, or other illegal activities. It must be made clear that all actions and conversations within GraalOnline are subject to monitoring. Should a player or players be suspected of illegal or abusive activity, GraalOnline reserves the right to use administration tools to monitor individuals' communications via chats and other private messages.

GraalOnline staff and personnel will never single out individual personal information when communicating to other players or outside parties. GraalOnline expects GraalOnline players to abide by the same respect for personal privacy. Personal information - age, address, personal email, phone numbers, etc. - should never be exploited, communicated between players. Any violations will be strictly punished.

Inverness 07-22-2008 05:43 PM

I reserve the right to not play on your server if I suspect you're logging my PMs.

Switch 07-22-2008 05:43 PM

They made that kind of system on UN but I'm not sure if they made it record...

DustyPorViva 07-22-2008 05:49 PM

Eh... it's good for suspected harassment and stuff like that... I know a few games that record EVERYTHING, and lots of people still play it. Then again, this is Graal, and servers are ran by... well, less than spectacular people, most of the time. If this were to be done, it would have to be specifically for reference only(IE someone complains of someone sexually harassing them, go look it up in the log) or something... and one person have access.

But ya, not on Graal, this couldn't work.

Bell 07-22-2008 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Switch (Post 1406935)
They made that kind of system on UN but I'm not sure if they made it record...

Their system doesn't log and if they ever do decide to log it they had better have a very clear warning that it will be logged. Such as a popup telling you so. Not just a server message when you log on which nobody reads.

TESTRETIS 07-22-2008 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DustyPorViva (Post 1406926)
By law? I'm pretty sure Graal ToS already state that you should not expect privacy or something like that...

United States law, France is a bit different apparently.


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