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kia345 09-28-2007 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Inverness (Post 1349875)
That sounds more like he used it just to see that it actually works.

I'm referring to a few other things he's done that wasn't bug abuse; I'm saying I wouldn't put it past him

If a glitch isn't going to be fixed, keep abusing it until someone realizes it's out of hand

DutchGuy 09-28-2007 10:39 PM

it is no glitch to gain advantage over other players.
in fact theres no player involved.
its simply a faster money making thing, that anyone can do if they knew how to.
but the fact half of the people arnt aware of the function, it makes m think its a glitch.

Bell 09-28-2007 10:59 PM

It does give you an advantage. You make money faster than they do. Its also used in other ways which I have no intention of detailing. The problem is, its not a glitch that the servers can fix themselves so they can only defend against the problem. Since bots act in a similar fashion the staff can only assume you are botting if you don't stop to show them you are actually there.

Inverness 09-29-2007 01:35 AM

DutchGuy, I don't like repeating myself, everyone has ironed out the fact that its a glitch and you're abusing it and you should expect to be punished if you continue to do so.
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Originally Posted by kia345
If a glitch isn't going to be fixed, keep abusing it until someone realizes it's out of hand

That is NOT the correct attitude to take. In MMORPGs if people are found abusing a glitch, they get punished for it immediately. And everyone who uses the glitch will get punished for it up until the glitch is removed.

On a playerworld, if they're unable to correct a glitch for some reason, they can still punish everyone that abuses the glitch, it doesn't matter if they fix it or not.

kia345 09-29-2007 01:48 AM

If they're not making any attempt to correct it, or not even going to flat out say "do not abuse this glitch", it's the only approach to take if you want anything done.

Ravenblade1979 09-29-2007 01:53 AM

Inverness the fact that the original poster didn't know it was not allowed on the server when he was using it shouldn't mean that he should be punished. He should be punished if he uses it again.

I have to point out that this combination can be used on graal kingdoms but only for a few things. Its actually good so you don't repeatedly hit your s button on your keyboard wearing it out faster.

Here is what I found I could use it on GK for.

- Swinging a sword (against some monsters its ok but generally this is damn useless against others and in pking)
- Making cloth (if you hold a and tab you can produce about 25-30 cloth per coal)
- Swinging a pickaxe (just hold s and tab and instead of hitting s over and over it will swing but not fast. I have tested it and its the same speed wether you hit s or s&tab)

Now I must stress that its extremely annoying when you hold down s&tab or a&tab because on GK tab is the button to hit to bring up the chat bar. So I doubt many people really use it.

Not useful for:

- pking and higher level monsters
- casting magic (you just need to hold down the hotkey for the magic your casting)
- purchasing stuff
- walking
- using a boat
- cooking
- using a zeplin
- doing alchemy
- making items (weapons, armor, helms etc)
- making scrolls
- swimming
- doing events
- quests

Crono 09-29-2007 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1350012)
Now I must stress that its extremely annoying when you hold down s&tab or a&tab because on GK tab is the button to hit to bring up the chat bar. So I doubt many people really use it.

I'm sorry but no ****? Every server's chat bar comes up when you press tab, thats where the bug comes from to begin with...the rapid switching between your chat bar and the screen.

I find it useful when I'm mining on UN, just saves me from having to keep pressing D. It doesn't really give you much of an edge, it's more for the sake of not having to bash buttons.

DustyPorViva 09-29-2007 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami (Post 1350021)
I'm sorry but no ****? Every server's chat bar comes up when you press tab, thats where the bug comes from to begin with...the rapid switching between your chat bar and the screen.

I find it useful when I'm mining on UN, just saves me from having to keep pressing D. It doesn't really give you much of an edge, it's more for the sake of not having to bash buttons.

But bashing button is the foundation of making money on Graal!!!
Anyways, not every game documents every glitch(because most of the time they're not known), and tells people not to do it.
See, I know it's rare and all... but common sense is a good place to start when making personal decisions about these kinds of things.

zokemon 09-29-2007 04:18 AM

Unlike others here, I do not see this as a glitch at all. If I have some turbo feature of my keyboard does that mean I'm abusing a glitch? No. It's the simple fact of the matter that keys can repeat and should be allowed to.

If a server is to stupid to not be able to make some feature that is a tiny bit more complex then button mashing, that is their own fault.

DustyPorViva 09-29-2007 04:55 AM

Pretty sure at one point they said they don't allow the usage of turbo either.
The difference? A turbo controller is a third party kind of thing. The tab-ASD thing is a byproduct of the client.
That's like a glitch to dupe items is on the same lines of hacking to dupe items. It may be an extreme comparison, because hacking and a turbo controller are completely different... but just because you can replicate it via third party doesn't mean it's not an abusable glitch.


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