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lordbosh 05-27-2007 11:00 AM

Now that you have held a representative meeting to decide how to govern can you PLEASE change back the ranks of leadership to something more appropriate to a republic?

Ravenblade1979 05-27-2007 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by lordbosh (Post 1312419)
Now that you have held a representative meeting to decide how to govern can you PLEASE change back the ranks of leadership to something more appropriate to a republic?


Will you please stay in Dustari forums Overlord Bosh. Your no longer in Zormite. Your Dustarian now.

Now to the thing about civilian/citizen rank being taken out..that just means they can set their nick to whatever they wish...biggest example (and we will see this) Emporer. And thats going to make us look bad. As good of a idea as it was Uri you should have thought on that one.

Now I know people are going to say that they can just check to see the members of the kingdoms and ranks but really how many people know about the gui to click on to see the kingdom stats?

Taking out Civilian is good but Citizen was a bad move on your part Emporer. I don't support that at all. It will have negative feedback especially if the people without a rank add their own.

ceserthen 05-27-2007 07:36 PM

Why are all citizens now out of the Kingdom, I do not think enough relocation time was given. At least you should have elliminated the civilian rank and told the citizens to select a ministry to transfer to. I for one agree with Prince Ravenblade. (we also now have the lowest amount of players in the any kingdom at 33, next is dustari at 66 after that is samurai with 115)

kia345 05-27-2007 08:28 PM

Yes but barely any of them are active.

I, and I'm sure most of GK, would rather 33 total people and usually 12 active, than Samurai's 155 and 1 active.

ceserthen 05-27-2007 08:36 PM

Citizens should not have been removed untill a majority of them have been transfered. The civilian rank was set up for...

"This is the filtering process. From here people can either be thrown from the kingdom, or accepted into it as a citizen.-Drakeero"

It should remain as an introductory step into the kingdom so we might still have an inflow of players. When I joined a kingdom I didn't join a ministy because I had no idea about each ministry untill I talked to other players and read on the forums.

Citizen SHOULD remain in the kingdom. these are normal people who have yet to show value or time to enter into a proper kingdom ministry. I think it was idiotic to remove it and Citizen needs to be re-added.

Ravenblade1979 05-27-2007 08:37 PM

Anyways do you need readding or something.

BigBear3 05-27-2007 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by lordbosh (Post 1312419)
Now that you have held a representative meeting to decide how to govern can you PLEASE change back the ranks of leadership to something more appropriate to a republic?

Agreed.

Googi 05-27-2007 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1312449)
Now to the thing about civilian/citizen rank being taken out..that just means they can set their nick to whatever they wish...biggest example (and we will see this) Emporer. And thats going to make us look bad. As good of a idea as it was Uri you should have thought on that one.

Makes it easier to figure out who shouldn't be in the kingdom.

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1312449)
It will have negative feedback especially if the people without a rank add their own.

People with no rank have done this in other kingdoms several times and nobody cared. With new members left rankless, it's way easier for ministry leaders to add them into a ministry. You're saying we should care more about a minor perception issue rather than a major efficiency issue.

Booting out all the newly rankless members was a mistake, however.

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Originally Posted by ceserthen (Post 1312493)
Citizen SHOULD remain in the kingdom. these are normal people who have yet to show value or time to enter into a proper kingdom ministry. I think it was idiotic to remove it and Citizen needs to be re-added.

Because you have it stuck in your mind that being in a ministry > citizen. The lowest rank of a ministry is now the lowest rank in the kingdom. It's the new civillian/citizen. This is clear in the names of the lowest ranks in the magic/lores ministry ("Apprentice", and "Novice"). They aren't in the ministry so much as they are classified under it and in training to become members of it. True "membership" in the ministry comes with attaining the second rank (at least in the Ministry of Magic). Maybe the other ministries should have their lowest ranks names changed to "trainee" ranks too.

lordbosh 05-27-2007 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ravenblade1979 (Post 1312449)
Will you please stay in Dustari forums Overlord Bosh. Your no longer in Zormite. Your Dustarian now.

Want a war? I hear I'm pretty good at winning those. My empire could use some extra fertile soil and slaves.

Ravenblade1979 05-28-2007 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by lordbosh (Post 1312508)
Want a war? I hear I'm pretty good at winning those. My empire could use some extra fertile soil and slaves.

Wow you really are that dumb. I have every right to tell you to go back to your own forums. YOU ARE NOT ZORMITE anymore.

And frankly (John can deal with this himself face to face) but John as king is a joke. He don't really care and thats sad. Don't believe me ask him yourself.

CABAL49 05-28-2007 04:37 AM

Just wondering, will the ministry of Citizen still exist or has it been canged already and i just don't know about it.

kia345 05-28-2007 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lordbosh (Post 1312508)
Want a war? I hear I'm pretty good at winning those. My empire could use some extra fertile soil and slaves.

Someone sounds a little full of himself, eh?

Ravenblade1979 05-28-2007 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1312588)
Someone sounds a little full of himself, eh?

Actually he's not full of himself. He's that damn good.

Citizen is gone Oda.

kia345 05-28-2007 05:38 PM

Then I'm still waiting for someone who is both good and modest

Ravenblade1979 05-28-2007 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kia345 (Post 1312663)
Then I'm still waiting for someone who is both good and modest

Rare to see.


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