Do you realise that developers stop giving a **** about Graal because of **** unimaginative derivative playerworld projects stealing **** and making **** threads about it, completely devalueing any actual contribution by actual developers, while being protected in their *******ishness by retarded moderators who didn't recognise a troll if it lived under their bridge?

Hey if you disagree with my posts in this thread why don't you make a new thread in NGRT to discuss them

Also it would be cool if you could comment on 1) the guy making the thread not even being associated with the server 2) the accusations that the server stole all its **** 3) the server having no perspective and just being a staff playground

I mean, yeah, everybody is entitled to waste a bunch of money on a **** server with no redeeming qualities, but then by god we are entitled to call them out on it when they try to pass it off as an actual project worth actual developers' time

Because what you we are talking about is relevant to this thread with the exception of

Ban those Era/Zone players from the forums they're posting this 'trolling' crap, servers with good intentions and proper hiring threads usually don't get 'trolled'. However yeah there are the odd times when a stupid pointless argument is started and extends for a couple pages but the thread creator should be reporting those and stopping it before it gets worse.

However, Graal Ghetto is in fact a piece of **** and people should know to stay away from it, they've been trading their virtual goods for others and exploiting their server since day 1.

Loriel, can you please use the multi-quote button.

I guess my fundamental disagreement with you then is that I think it is not trolling but appropriate and absolutely vital to be able to discuss a server in its hiring threads!! I mean if I was a developer looking for work I would kind of want to know whether the server I was considering was actually run by ****heads as described in that thread

Pretend I am making some sort of thread structure argument here

Edit: Apart from when I reply to Tigairius twice, I guess

The same can be done in 1 post.
It is quicker to use the multiquote, and it is less annoying for the rest of us.
Win win, no?

I realize that developers lose interest for many reasons. I also realize that if there is anyone who is trying to get into developing, they can easily be chased away by trolls on these forums.

and they would probably be better off "chased away" outright than after having sunk months into some **** playerworld that went exploited them and ultimately went nowhere

Just trying this out

Edit: No it does not seem like it keeps the structure

so what made you want to work on Graal all those years ago

Not ****ty playerworlds certainly

Yeah because being new to development and having a ****ty playerworld as a playground to improve yourself if even slightly is bad. Right?