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Old 10-09-2007, 12:17 AM
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I'm talking about forum activity not money. The place felt more alive before the forum went P2P-only again.
Activity was higher in July than in June (and the forums were P2P-only for half of July). Though it went down in August.
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The simple fact is making these forums pay to post is a small notch in the list of "ways not to run a MMORPG" that the Graal administration has been adding to over the years.

Making them free won't do much now, because the community is pretty disinterested in Graal in general. Even if 20 more people posted here on a daily basis, the community would still be far from lively.
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Old 10-09-2007, 01:28 AM
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Activity was higher in July than in June (and the forums were P2P-only for half of July). Though it went down in August.
Wasn't V5 announced to be released in July? Might explain that, but Classic accounts were able to post during that time too.

What about September?
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:08 AM
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No, forums should cost. It'll keep all those damn newbies from flooding the forums. Not to mention that the forums are a feature that should only come when you buy a product, like a warranty of sorts. The only reason other MMORPG's offer them for free is because they don't see the huge potential in income a business can make by charging for the official community. Pull your heads out of the toilets and open your eyes to how much of a benefit you're receiving by paying for access to these forums; like your chance to get recognized by Unixmad and/or Stefan.
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:23 AM
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No, forums should cost. It'll keep all those damn newbies from flooding the forums. Not to mention that the forums are a feature that should only come when you buy a product, like a warranty of sorts. The only reason other MMORPG's offer them for free is because they don't see the huge potential in income a business can make by charging for the official community. Pull your heads out of the toilets and open your eyes to how much of a benefit you're receiving by paying for access to these forums; like your chance to get recognized by Unixmad and/or Stefan.
Thus let Classics here, too :o
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Old 10-09-2007, 02:43 AM
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No, forums should cost. It'll keep all those damn newbies from flooding the forums. Not to mention that the forums are a feature that should only come when you buy a product, like a warranty of sorts. The only reason other MMORPG's offer them for free is because they don't see the huge potential in income a business can make by charging for the official community. Pull your heads out of the toilets and open your eyes to how much of a benefit you're receiving by paying for access to these forums; like your chance to get recognized by Unixmad and/or Stefan.
I hope you're being sarcastic with this post, either that or you're somewhat deluded.
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No, forums should cost. It'll keep all those damn newbies from flooding the forums. Not to mention that the forums are a feature that should only come when you buy a product, like a warranty of sorts. The only reason other MMORPG's offer them for free is because they don't see the huge potential in income a business can make by charging for the official community. Pull your heads out of the toilets and open your eyes to how much of a benefit you're receiving by paying for access to these forums; like your chance to get recognized by Unixmad and/or Stefan.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:03 AM
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I say let it be free but highly restrict content for the non-registered accounts, like allow them to view the general forums only but not the development ones. Also allow them to post only once every hour.
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:18 AM
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Old 10-09-2007, 03:32 AM
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Wasn't V5 announced to be released in July? Might explain that, but Classic accounts were able to post during that time too.
Maybe if you could name some people who had to stop posting because of the forums going P2P-only...

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What about September?
It went down in September, but it went down in September of every year except 2001.
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Maybe if you could name some people who had to stop posting because of the forums going P2P-only...
Hell if i'd know. You're the forum god, you should know.

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It went down in September, but it went down in September of every year except 2001.
Well has the number itself been lower this year than every other year for September?
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Old 10-10-2007, 12:17 AM
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Old 10-10-2007, 09:19 AM
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Hell if i'd know. You're the forum god, you should know.
Can't think of any. Without doubt, Zoners quitting after v5 was a far bigger hit.

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Well has the number itself been lower this year than every other year for September?
Yes, but the all-time low was October 2004.
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Old 10-10-2007, 01:09 PM
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No, forums should cost. It'll keep all those damn newbies from flooding the forums.
You're right, because someone doesn't upgrade every year, they're a noob who doesn't deserve to have the 'benefits' we do.
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Not to mention that the forums are a feature that should only come when you buy a product, like a warranty of sorts. The only reason other MMORPG's offer them for free is because they don't see the huge potential in income a business can make by charging for the official community.
Is Graal the only game you play? Look at all those free MMORPGs out there that also have free forums. The ones that look and play better than Graal. They're not looking for income, so why should Graal?

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Pull your heads out of the toilets and open your eyes to how much of a benefit you're receiving by paying for access to these forums; like your chance to get recognized by Unixmad and/or Stefan.
Lost all respect for you with that.

I hope that was sarcasm

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Old 10-10-2007, 01:42 PM
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Sorry, /sarcasm
It seems if you post logical, educated and respectful complaints, Unix completely ignores them. I thought I'd try another tactic and maybe catch his attention.
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