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View Poll Results: What should happen to the current AP System?
Leave it untouched. 13 50.00%
Revise it (make some changes). 9 34.62%
Completely remove it. 4 15.38%
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:33 PM
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Thumbs down The AP System.

I'll state where I am with this first - I do not like it at all, it has had a negative effect on PK'ing for one and i'll explain why:

Most of Ventrue and (former Rommiel) members do this - whenever they get to less than 40AP they run away to idle again to get over 60+ AP so that they have 8HP again and can heal, that is very lame and I hope this system is changed to prevent this.

It is very annoying for those that want to continuously PK such as myself, I have to PK vs someone with 8hp while I only have 3, and the frustrating thing is, I am at a disadvantage since they can hit bushes and heal with pots while I can't which is equally as lame.

I understand that there are people that don't want to PK, however I don't like how people now aim to get around 60+AP and then go PK only to run away when they are at fair HPs (which leaves me with x3 more Deaths than Kills and with them the opposite) Mighty and TheDae especially abuse this AP System, I hope they read this and feel rightfully ashamed for abusing this loophole.

Please vote on whether the AP system should be revised, untouched or removed in total.

Personally I'd like to see it removed since people are now too lazy to PK and therefore remove the fun for those that do. There is nothing of worth to do on Classic as of right now, and even though the HD sucks, I'd still like to have a fair chance vs everyone else. Additionally, it's very boring when there are no events going on, I like to pk and to be honest there is no one to PK due to this 100AP bs.

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Why the AP System sucks:
  • People no longer PK just to keep their 100AP.
  • The AP System promotes idling.
  • It has a negative effect on PK'ing.
  • It promotes laming.
  • Those that want to PK - can't, because of people with 100AP.
  • It's very boring if you can't PK - thus a possible reason why the server is very inactive right now.
  • 100AP people now get in the way of those that PK (since you can't hit them and they can't be moved) thus they use this to their advantage by blocking you.
  • Loophole in the system which people such as Mighty and TheDae abuse.
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:37 PM
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I think the AP gaining process should be slowed down a bit. Also I suggest the removal of the full heal (regardless of any AP) from christians shop. 75g is dirt cheap and you get a full heal.

But then again, nobody really pks anymore on any Classic Server.
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:40 PM
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you just pointed out 5 times 100ap thing
People no longer PK just to keep their 100AP.

The AP System promotes idling.
It has a negative effect on PK'ing.
It promotes laming. <-laming?
Those that want to PK - can't, because of people with 100AP. <- this one i cant rly understand why its bad
It's very boring if you can't PK - thus a possible reason why the server is very inactive right now. <- the server is inactive because there nothing to do , people will not stay just for pk

i voted keep it untouched

plus i highly doubt staff will take this seriously.
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:44 PM
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I say it needs some changes, I doubt it's only Ventrue though :/ Anyways I think 100ap being immune to all attacks is lame. Bring back so that you can remove peoples 100ap that was really fun.
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I think the AP gaining process should be slowed down a bit. Also I suggest the removal of the full heal (regardless of any AP) from christians shop. 75g is dirt cheap and you get a full heal.
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you just pointed out 5 times 100ap thing
They are different points, I just summarised in those bullet points.
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It promotes laming. <-laming?
Ventrue (mainly Mighty and TheDae) and former Rommiel lame, I already explained how they abuse it in the opening post.
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Those that want to PK - can't, because of people with 100AP. <- this one i cant rly understand why its bad
That is bad because it means those that want to have fun and 'play' the server by PK'ing - can't. What's there to prove? It's plain logic.
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It's very boring if you can't PK - thus a possible reason why the server is very inactive right now. <- the server is inactive because there nothing to do , people will not stay just for pk
I didn't say people will only stay to PK, but it damn right makes a difference.
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i voted keep it untouched
plus i highly doubt staff will take this seriously.
Not to be rude or anything, I'm assuming you just read the word 'Mighty' and automatically declined the content because he's your friend.
Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned his name...
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:47 PM
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my god this thread is a joke >.>
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:50 PM
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Stupid poll, I'll have to go and agree with laura, we have always had the AP system. I voted for it to be left untouched, this sounds more like a complaint about lamers than a suggestion. Next it will be get rid of saint because all they do is sit around until they feel like slashing someone.

And just to point it out, I wouldn't generalize the guilds Kill, Some Ventrue do that, some former Rommiels do it, but lets not keep out the rest shall we? Some US kids do it, and oh wait, so do other players from other guilds as well. So all in all, pretty dull complaint, I don't think its worth much looking into, management will probably see it that way, hopefully, that is no where near good enough reason to remove AP system. There has to be a point at which someone can go re heal fully.
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Old 04-04-2009, 04:58 PM
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AP is ****ing pointless it's like those stupid video games where you have to drink water every minute
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:03 PM
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You can't force people to take part in PK - they can just idle paused, or whatever.
100 AP is a good way for people to keep out of this - they cannot pk by themselves, but they cannot be pked, too.

My proposal would be to remove any AP effect below an AP of 100.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:05 PM
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My proposal would be to remove any AP effect below an AP of 100.
Completely agree, not sure why there are special effects for 40> <100AP in the first place.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:06 PM
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Or just not touch it because Kill is the only one dumb enough to complain about the AP system.


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Old 04-04-2009, 05:07 PM
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why would you even want to pk with this HD? it's no fun
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:08 PM
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Or just not touch it because Kill is the only one dumb enough to complain about the AP system.


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I have raised good points, you however do not help the situation at all.
It's not as 'dumb' as you think it is, it's actually a pretty lame system as of right now.
How you have not been a victim of the current loophole is beyond me...
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:10 PM
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Well couple of things kill, first notice, now the vote is in favor of not touching it, so obviously only mystic is agreeing with you.
Secondly, I am not a victim because i am fkn awesome thats why. I am not dildos like you.
Third, you really did not make good points, the AP system as far as I know, has been the same, always. Correct me if I am wrong please, I would so appreciate it.
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Old 04-04-2009, 05:11 PM
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[QUOTE=Kill;1480901]I agree.

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They are different points, I just summarised in those bullet points.
you summarised what?


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Ventrue (mainly Mighty and TheDae) and former Rommiel lame, I already explained how they abuse it in the opening post.
actually mighty is not even pking anymore , how can he lame?


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That is bad because it means those that want to have fun and 'play' the server by PK'ing - can't. What's there to prove? It's plain logic.
people that have 100ap mean THEY DONT WANT TO PK , isnt that logic


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I didn't say people will only stay to PK, but it damn right makes a difference.
not really a BIG difference its would make


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Not to be rude or anything, I'm assuming you just read the word 'Mighty' and automatically declined the content because he's your friend.
Perhaps I shouldn't have mentioned his name...
well whatever you say , mighty is my friend yes , but i did not vote because i saw his name. if your trying to start any false accusation you might as well shut up lol
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