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View Poll Results: LAT, GAT, NAT or Gani Team?
LAT 15 21.74%
NAT 43 62.32%
GAT 9 13.04%
Gani Team 2 2.90%
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Old 08-03-2007, 12:02 AM
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People are forgetting the most important and fundamental aspects of any project like this. As I mentioned before: Leadership. But also imagination. Before any thing can be scripted, tiled, or shaded the idea has to be there.

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Old 08-03-2007, 01:11 AM
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The poll speaks for itself, I'm not going really bother arguing with that clear victory.
No it doesn't. It just means people prefer NAT, doesn't mean its really the most important.

Practically, it depends on the server.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:18 AM
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No it doesn't. It just means people prefer NAT, doesn't mean its really the most important.

Practically, it depends on the server.
I wouldn't argue too much against it. Everything is important, but the lack of many good and free scripters isn't good and why no new playerworlds have really surfaced over the past years.

WanDaMan is a good example, he's surely made about 10 playerworlds in the last 3 years. 10 of which haven't been used as he gets to the point of needed a scripter but there is no one out there.
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Old 08-03-2007, 02:29 AM
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While levels and GFX are important it all boils down to scripting, without scripting there is no reason for the GFX or levels.
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Old 08-03-2007, 10:01 AM
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WanDaMan is a good example, he's surely made about 10 playerworlds in the last 3 years. 10 of which haven't been used as he gets to the point of needed a scripter but there is no one out there.
That's my story except change WanDaMan to Zero and change scripter to graphic artist.

I've really made my server though where there is no need for level builders (LATs as they are commonly known) since all of the stuff like such can just be developed by players (since the world is randomly generated with trees and other things everywhere) as the players can just go out, buy their own land plot and develop it how they wish.

Of course staff teams need to make towns and such but such work isn't really the same as level building...

In short: a good server only really needs one really good scripter and one really good graphic artist. I still have to go with the scripter being more important though since graphics can't be fully expressed without amazing scripts to display them. Scripts however can get by with simple graphics and default images (even though that sucks horribly). It's almost a tie in my opinion.
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:43 AM
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Old 08-05-2007, 05:57 AM
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I find it funny how you all have overlooked the one statement by Inverness pointing out this game wouldn't even be here without the coding. Coding is most important. You cannot make gameplay with graphics and levels and no scripts. However you CAN make gameplay with just scripts.

So scripters w1n. You all have epically failed at your lives.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:15 AM
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For some reason that annoys me. I would never praise the ground a scripter walks on. or be like ''OMG U R LEETXORSZ"
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I find it funny how you all have overlooked the one statement by Inverness pointing out this game wouldn't even be here without the coding. Coding is most important. You cannot make gameplay with graphics and levels and no scripts. However you CAN make gameplay with just scripts.

So scripters w1n. You all have epically failed at your lives.
I would refuse to play a server with BAD gfx and BAD levels even if it did have great scripts.
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Old 08-05-2007, 06:41 AM
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I would refuse to play a server with BAD gfx and BAD levels even if it did have great scripts.
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Old 08-05-2007, 07:59 AM
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Your server isn't that interesting Zero.
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Old 08-05-2007, 09:59 AM
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Your server isn't that interesting Zero.
It's unique and pretty damn successful for a RPG server that doesn't even have it's combat, monster, npc, skill, stat, equipment or leveling systems started yet. Once I get those, let's see if you still hold on to that claim.

You can't really say that without finishing the tutorial either since I can't grasp the possibilities in the server unless you know how to do things.
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Old 08-05-2007, 10:13 AM
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No it doesn't. It just means people prefer NAT, doesn't mean its really the most important.

Practically, it depends on the server.
The poll askes for which position is more important, ignoring the clear victory of NAT just because you're not pleased with the results and trying to justify your reasoning with your weak assumptions about the voter's intent behind their votes is narrow-minded and ignorant.

You sir, are a sore loser.

The community has voted on which skill they believe is the most important, and NAT has clearly won. No amount of your reasoning is going to change the fact that the majority believes NAT is most important. You yourself may not believe this for obvious reasons but polls aren't created to find individual opinion.
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People are forgetting the most important and fundamental aspects of any project like this. As I mentioned before: Leadership. But also imagination. Before any thing can be scripted, tiled, or shaded the idea has to be there.

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All NATs should have imagination, if you don't please kill yourself before I do.
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Old 08-05-2007, 01:59 PM
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Your server isn't that interesting Zero.
What planet are you on? Atexia is awesome.

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All NATs should have imagination, if you don't please kill yourself before I do.
But not all NATs have the innovation to create a fantastically unique server. Also, not all scripters have leadership skills.

I'm not very imaginative in terms of scripting but I still script, albeit I suck, so yeah *hands knife* kill me.

Go make a server that looks as good as it plays (meaning to the quality of Angelu's graphics and to the level quality of WanDaMan/Crono). If you can, I'll give you the applaud you need for being one of the scripters who were voted "most important" to Graal.
Hey look finally some half-logic in myself, some NATs like Skyld and Calani do good scripting but they can't make a good server even if their life depended on it. Their ego and arrogance degrade the server.
This thread was silly and only provided copious amounts of ego to those who are already filled the brim with it.

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Old 08-05-2007, 02:33 PM
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The poll askes for which position is more important, ignoring the clear victory of NAT just because you're not pleased with the results and trying to justify your reasoning with your weak assumptions about the voter's intent behind their votes is narrow-minded and ignorant.
So are you gonna just keep flinging random words and insults or actually tell me why what the poll is saying is correct? (your big block of text below doesn't explain it by the way)

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The community has voted on which skill they believe is the most important, and NAT has clearly won. No amount of your reasoning is going to change the fact that the majority believes NAT is most important. You yourself may not believe this for obvious reasons but polls aren't created to find individual opinion.
Yeah, I know the community believes that NAT is the most important. But that still doesn't make it the most important.

If we all voted that Rufus was the best NAT on graal, would he really be?

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WanDaMan is a good example, he's surely made about 10 playerworlds in the last 3 years. 10 of which haven't been used as he gets to the point of needed a scripter but there is no one out there.
Yeah but in return, look at Babylon. It has the scripts/gat's needed, but it's all relying on Inferno and me to finish the ow. It's been like this for a LONG time too. The lack of active LAT's is holding the entire project back.

Look at what was going on at Delteria. They needed people to work on that overworld. They have a great scripter or two, they certainly have awesome graphics, but at one point they were relying on LAT's to just get some kind of overworld done.

In all seriousness I'm not gonna go LOL LATZ MOST IMPORTANT, in my opinion all 3 suck alone. You can't make a good server with scripts only, you can't make a good server with graphics only, and you can't make a good server with levels only.
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