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Old 07-10-2007, 10:52 PM
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Ok thanks Unixmad for the clearing up. I am excited and can not wait! What do you guys use to make the animations for Graal 3D i am really interested in learning.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:54 PM
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You will not have to pay to use developer tools. The new developer pack is a way to team up with 4 other developer to get a playerworld. Developer pack will costs less than 2USD a month.
This sounds good
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You could e.g. watch at the screenshots and see that they show different graphics for the same start bar. I think what unixmad was mad about is that for many people here it probably means a free upgrade (new version) and they still complain.
I checked. So far they all seem to have the orange bar, the metallic kind of time display and that multi-coloured 'start' button which reminds me of Mario 64 for some reason.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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Stefan have already explained it:

You will not have to pay to use developer tools. The new developer pack is a way to team up with 4 other developer to get a playerworld. Developer pack will costs less than 2USD a month.
I didn't see where he explained it fully. You just did. Thank you.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:55 PM
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So you mean. It's just soft of like a (GUILD) but has the privilege to construct a server? So If the PW takes about 1 year to develop that's 24 Dollars per year. Oh and will it be free once it's in Classic Tabs like most servers do.
That is awesome if it's true.
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I checked. So far they all seem to have the orange bar, the metallic kind of time display and that multi-coloured 'start' button which reminds me of Mario 64 for some reason.
They are modifiable with Windows' themes with the .wba extensions, from what I believe.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:56 PM
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You don't know enough about it to critisize it, you've read a page of information. Most of it not as clear as one would like but still you can't base your judgements off of 1 page of information.
So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.
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1.) I really all the new features and such and am really hoping to get to work with those new script functions/features soon. However I have a few questions or gripes.

Issue 1:

I understand DEVELOPER TOOLS ARE FREE. However, what will be included in this developer PACK? Anything special?
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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So you mean. It's just soft of like a (GUILD) but has the privilege to construct a server? So If the PW takes about 1 year to develop that's 24 Dollars per year. Oh and will it be free once it's in Classic Tabs like most servers do.
That is awesome if it's true.
No. It's $120 per year. Because you need 5 people with dev packs. And $2 a month per dev pack a person.

5 x $2 = $10 a month for server acces. Times 12.
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:58 PM
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So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.
And now that you DO know the information you don't seem to be as mad at it as you were before, learn the facts before you *****.
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They are modifiable with Windows' themes with the .wba extensions, from what I believe.
You use windows themes to edit the guis contained within Graal? That's just odd....
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Old 07-10-2007, 10:59 PM
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So it's my fault I've been given bad or incomplete information to digest now? I can only read what's in front of me. I'm not some ub3r-l33t Kaimetsu-loving yes-man who gets top secret xxx trotsivahax1337 access to Graal v5 (unlike, apparently, many people in this thread) - I can only read and react what I've seen. Okay, I've not seen much, and what I have seen was confusing and seemingly restricting.

Next time, they can either:
*Be clearer in their newsletter next time
*Not post a newsletter

I believe they chose option number two. However, I do appreciate Stefan himself saying that we're not paying to develop or for developer tools, only for a playerworld building guild (or whatever). As long as it doesn't affect my work or my server, I ultimately don't care. When it might affect me, I have the right to an opinion regardless of whether or not Moon Goddess is going to delete that opinion.
Hmm, I have no more info then what you have read in the news letter, and it was all pretty clear to me, except the development subscription, which was just cleared up...

and, I didn't delete any of your posts
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:04 PM
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I checked. So far they all seem to have the orange bar, the metallic kind of time display and that multi-coloured 'start' button which reminds me of Mario 64 for some reason.
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:06 PM
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graal://Litheria produces the exact same bar. I assumed that this orange one would be the graal v5 default but I'm guessing that it is / will be able to be changed... what's the object name of it?
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Old 07-10-2007, 11:07 PM
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Good to see that it's customable. And by the way, this is totally offtopic, but reply to my PM please - you said you would!
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