Request

slay3r89 · #1 11-11-2003, 08:10 PM

Hello!

I have finally decided to make a level tutorial for the GraalOnline Community. I have been out of the level making duties for awhile and want to flex my muscles again.
SO I am asking YOU the community for suggestions on what needs to "explained" the most for level making.

What problems do you encounter the most?

Thank You
and to make you drool some I am posting one of my best levels here.

(the level is a joke but I am serious about making a tutorial and I
want your input )

GoZelda · #2 11-11-2003, 08:27 PM

1.) What exactly grass detail is
2.) Clusters
3.) Creativity with tiles
4.) Why i pwn, even though my levels are crap
5.) Why others pwn even though there levels are nothing different.

Ducati_Link · #3 11-11-2003, 09:07 PM

I get asked alot about level linking. I personaly dont see how it's hard.. but quite a few people seem to.

I think my personal weak stop is cliffing, but only when the cliff is higher than its defult size.

haunter · #4 11-12-2003, 12:03 AM

Alot of people do make errors while making cliffs, especially when they have sand at the bottom. I notice people using the wrong two tiles for the cliff -to- sand at the bottom of a south-cliff... I also notice that within the cliffs, there are often specks of light colour, people cant find the tiles to fix that, so maybe You could do a part on cliffs...

Another thing that surprises me, is that many people have no idea how to do TREES @_@;

GoZelda · #5 11-12-2003, 12:20 AM

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Originally posted by haunter
Another thing that surprises me, is that many people have no idea how to do TREES @_@;

What the f***, predefined objects man, even i know

haunter · #6 11-12-2003, 12:25 AM

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Originally posted by GoZelda

What the f***, predefined objects man, even i know

WTF, what if you want a cliff that's larger than that? Or something with a different shape? The fact is, people are still making mistakes, maybe you don't notice them, but I sure as hell do.

Eric_1337 · #7 11-12-2003, 12:51 AM

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Originally posted by haunter
Alot of people do make errors while making cliffs, especially when they have sand at the bottom. I notice people using the wrong two tiles for the cliff -to- sand at the bottom of a south-cliff... I also notice that within the cliffs, there are often specks of light colour, people cant find the tiles to fix that, so maybe You could do a part on cliffs...

x.x, I've done 2 tutorials on Cliff tileing

, one focused on the thing you said people mess up the most with... ugh no appriciation.

haunter · #8 11-12-2003, 12:52 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337

x.x, I've done 2 tutorials on Cliff tileing , one focused on the thing you said people mess up the most with... ugh no appriciation.

I know you've made two. They're still flawed though.

haunter · #9 11-12-2003, 01:14 AM

I hope this can explain it...
Im sure there are errors in my example as well, these are just the things I noticed about yours.

But, also, a tutorial is needed for large cliffs, ones that are like, 10+ tiles high.

Eric_1337 · #10 11-12-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by haunter
I hope this can explain it...
Im sure there are errors in my example as well, these are just the things I noticed about yours.

But, also, a tutorial is needed for large cliffs, ones that are like, 10+ tiles high.

The one from the left is the one from mine right? and the one from the right is the one that you are doing correct? If so then they are the same =x if not then i need to see them side by side.

GoZelda · #11 11-12-2003, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by haunter

WTF, what if you want a cliff that's larger than that? Or something with a different shape? The fact is, people are still making mistakes, maybe you don't notice them, but I sure as hell do.

We're talkin' trees smarty pants

Ducati_Link · #12 11-12-2003, 06:27 PM

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Originally posted by GoZelda

What the f***, predefined objects man, even i know

Didn't he mean joining trees? Like when people group them heaps of people never get the right tiles to join them.

Thats how I took his post. If now.. well people dont know how to join trees either.

haunter · #13 11-13-2003, 01:05 AM

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Originally posted by Eric_1337

The one from the left is the one from mine right? and the one from the right is the one that you are doing correct? If so then they are the same =x if not then i need to see them side by side.

No, both of them are mine, I just added another one to put the boxes around so one wouldn't be obstructed.

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Originally posted by GoZelda
We're talkin' trees smarty pants

Oh, sorry I guess I really didn't READ your post, i just skimmed over it ;O...Predefined objects cant JOIN trees together, lots of people suck ass at doing it too, so they just stick a crap load of NPCs in the level instead and it makes it ugly and laggy.