'Don't Use UDP for data packages'

[Kneegro]

Whats the deal with this option? people are always complaining to others "You have UDP checked to lag yourself cheater" stuff like that...and others can't see people because of this option. It's confusing stuff...

[Deas_Voice]

what doas UPD packages really do?
i guess most players have it disabled because the stupid sign that pops up..

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Deas_Voice

what doas UPD packages really do?

They are smaller so they take less bandwidth.

[Crono1508]

User Datagram Protocol (UDP) also known as Universal Datagram Protocol.

Players in the United Kingdom aren't going to notice a difference because the server host that Graal uses is in the United Kingdom.

Although, if you live in the United States, you're going to notice a major difference if you have it checked or unchecked.

Making this message in short term understanding.


Basically having it unchecked you're going to have a better connection with the server. If the server was to ever lag out, you would notice some people are frozen and others aren't. The ones that aren't frozen, have UDP unchecked.


This means you're relaying on the server to be your connection for everyone else. If the server lags out, you're lagged out along with it.

I recommend, if you can, have UDP unchecked; it really makes Graal a lot better and you notice more players will be smoother.

If you have Dial-up, you should be able to enable it, regardless.

Broadband or Cable connections: You may have to port forward or enable 'DMZ' through your router settings.

[Kneegro]

Still is odd, I wish it would automatically choose whats best for the player so people don't use it to their advantage (Lag themselves.)

[Loriel]

Originally Posted by Kneegro

Still is odd, I wish it would automatically choose whats best for the player so people don't use it to their advantage (Lag themselves.)

If lagging themselves is to their advantage, play on a better server.

[Crono1508]

By default, I believe the protocol is checked so many newcomers or those who don't pay attention with settings, may not even know that it exist or what it does.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Crono1508

Players in the United Kingdom aren't going to notice a difference because the server host that Graal uses is in the United Kingdom.

Umm...what?

[Elizabeth]

i get this all the time too

except it says something else

[Crono]

If you uncheck it and are behind a router you have to select "Use fixed port for UDP" and enter a forwarded port or forward whats already there. UDP makes your character appear much smoother for other people and will make them appear sightly more smooth for you. When it's checked you're on TCP, and this makes your character slightly harder to hit as your character is more jumpy thus harder to predict.

[Crono1508]

Originally Posted by Crono

Umm...what?

Actually, the server isn't located in the United Kingdom, I mislead myself.
Although the statement I made, is true.

[Skyld]

Originally Posted by Crono

If you uncheck it and are behind a router you have to select "Use fixed port for UDP" and enter a forwarded port or forward whats already there. UDP makes your character appear much smoother for other people and will make them appear sightly more smooth for you. When it's checked you're on TCP, and this makes your character slightly harder to hit as your character is more jumpy thus harder to predict.

Well, not always. TCP tries to make sure packets get delivered by acknowledging received packets and resending dropped packets. UDP does not do this, so on a connection where packet drops is a problem, UDP will make your character seem very unsmooth. It just depends on the speed and reliability of your connection; UDP is better on a stable connection (say, fixed line DSL or fibre, maybe dialup) since it has less overhead and therefore is faster, but TCP is better on a less reliable connection (for instance, 3G, satellite) since the packet will be redelivered if necessary to make sure it gets there intact.

[Crono]

I thought if your packets were dropping (and you were using UDP) you wouldn't be able to see anyone else on UDP anyway?

[Crono1508]

Originally Posted by Crono

I thought if your packets were dropping (and you were using UDP) you wouldn't be able to see anyone else on UDP anyway?

You're right. But they're ways you can make it work.
For example, port forwarding and enabling DMZ in router settings.

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Crono1508

You're right. But they're ways you can make it work.
For example, port forwarding and enabling DMZ in router settings.

Yeah, I mean if their connection is ****.