Old Classic Server?

[Questa]

5) Tyhm and his team have worked hard to bring you the old Classic server, we will officially open it for Christmas.

unixmad said this. can someone point me to a thread that tells more info about this? Or just tell me what he is talking about.

[warp2ukew]

remember classic how it started? Thats what they mean...I think.

[Tyhm]

Graal1998=1.1 levels pack, brought up to code/new format, systemic bugs from changes in language fixed, no further level changes will be allowed, no staff, hacking will be legal on this server. It'll be just like it was pre-LAT.

[Questa]

Originally posted by Tyhm
Graal1998=1.1 levels pack, brought up to code/new format, systemic bugs from changes in language fixed, no further level changes will be allowed, no staff, hacking will be legal on this server. It'll be just like it was pre-LAT.

Client Sided and copyrighted stuff (Yoshi's house) free too?

[XxxxneosoftxxxX]

Originally posted by Tyhm
Graal1998=1.1 levels pack, brought up to code/new format, systemic bugs from changes in language fixed, no further level changes will be allowed, no staff, hacking will be legal on this server. It'll be just like it was pre-LAT.

Whoa.. this should be interesting.

[Tyhm]

No clue on the status. It may be open only to Gold or VIP level access like G2K2, it may be open to everyone. It may be open permanently, it may be open a month. Everything's kind of airy as it's in an ambiguous space, a personal hosted world made by an off-duty staffer on a port made specially by the owners...it's both a test of the rental system and a special xmas treat...

[LOA--Paul]

How ironic, I am going to hack on the old server and I'm a GP on the current ;P

BUT!
Everyone is going to be going to all these hack sites.. MANY MANY passwords are going to be stolen when this server is released ;P

[Tyhm]

People that stupid deserve what they get, and there's a trainer built into the system.

[Tyhm]

Trainers are not legal. It is not in my power to make them legal. I personally am not policing G1998, nor am I appointing GPs to do so (as this predates GPs), and you can "hack" by saying things - 2 [shieldpower], 3 [swordpower], 4 [levelname] [x] [y] - but that doesn't give you carte blanche on G1998, and it CERTAINLY does not mean you can hack anywhere you like!

That said, some FAQs on G1998 -
"This is broken!"
Yes. It was broken then, it's broken now.
"This isn't fair!"
Yes. Nor was it fair then.
"You should fix this!"
No, I shouldn't. It's an authentic recreation. There's actually a version I spent 3 years repairing and removing copyrights out - it's called Graal: The Adventure.
"Can I be staff?"
No. This predates staff, or at least fair staff, and there's no sense reintroducing Judges.

[Wang144]

Originally posted by Tyhm
and you can "hack" by saying things - 2 [shieldpower], 3 [swordpower], 4 [levelname] [x] [y]

what do you mean by that? like during the game u can say shieldpower 3 and it will give u that?

[LOA--Paul]

Originally posted by Tyhm
\\you can "hack" by saying things - 2 [shieldpower], 3 [swordpower], 4 [levelname] [x] [y] - but that doesn't give you carte blanche on G1998, and it CERTAINLY does not mean you can hack anywhere you like!

That said, some FAQs on G1998 -

Yes that's much better in my opinion, although I wouldn't consider that "Hacking" but still a form of cheating

And that FAQ reminds me of some of the current players, but it goes a little more like "THIS HAS BEEN BROKEN FOREVER, DON'T FIX IT OR EVER EDIT"

[Darlene159]

This is sooooooo wrong
Yes, lets give the hackers a place to test their hacks, lets give people who make the hacks somewhere to test them.

And lets, by all means, watch the numbers on the decent servers drop as people go to a server with no rules at all so they dont have to follow rules

I dont friggin believe this............:grrr:

[Milkdude99]

I know all the levels and have played them in the past , and yet you cannot enjoy the memories because of the "hacking and exploiting " that is going on there. Built in trainer? bah whos BS idea was that? Well since I cannot seem to make any positive comments on how it is up and how it is not being managed I will just shut up. Putting up the old levels to enjoy is a great idea but to let it go like it is isn't. That is the only positive thing I can find to say and is my 2 cents worth.

[AlexH]

I can't even get any of the "hacks" to work.
Anyway, hopefully if the server stays populated it will be a great PK server.
Level 3 sword and 20 hearts.
Fun, fun, fun.

[Tyhm]

Originally posted by Tyhm
Trainers are not legal. It is not in my power to make them legal. I personally am not policing G1998, nor am I appointing GPs to do so (as this predates GPs), and you can "hack" by saying things - 2 [shieldpower], 3 [swordpower], 4 [levelname] [x] [y] - but that doesn't give you carte blanche on G1998, and it CERTAINLY does not mean you can hack anywhere you like!

I hate repeating myself.

Trainers, hacks, free testing, nooo.
I'm told Classic is the last nonNPCServ anyway, so what does it matter to you?

shieldpower, no, you literally say
2 3
and POOF, lizardon shield. Gotta setshield to a different image first is all.

As to the player losses to other servers - how do you think I felt when UN outshone Classic for like six months in a row? How do you think G2K1's staff felt when G2K2 was released? In any case it's temporary - people like it because it's new, but I'm banking on that this will prove an educational experience on the relative values of nostalgia verses bugfixing, ie that getting Old Graal back isn't nearly as much fun as everyone thought it was going to be.
Naturally this will be attributed to my fault for not fixing the bugs in the 1.1 pack or refusing to hire staff or refusing to upload anything, but I've explained such justifications.