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Old 05-29-2006, 08:52 PM
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So what if I don't have a Mac? How do I decide my POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHSAODI HWOQIEHOIHSAODIHOQWUEHQOUW
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:56 PM
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So what if I don't have a Mac? How do I decide my POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHSAODI HWOQIEHOIHSAODIHOQWUEHQOUW
Hack the Mac OSx to work on your Pc, duh.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:12 PM
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So what if I don't have a Mac? How do I decide my POOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSHHSAODI HWOQIEHOIHSAODIHOQWUEHQOUW
If you don't have a Mac, then you are eternally doomed. And I'm talking either type of Mac.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:12 PM
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Hack the Mac OSx to work on your Pc, duh.
Gross! Why would you want the Mac OSX even on a Mac That's why God made Linux distros that run on Macs, lol.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:14 PM
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Gross! Why would you want the Mac OSX even on a Mac
Because then you get UNIX goodness with a more immediately useful OS. Linux is great and all, but it requires work.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:17 PM
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Because then you get UNIX goodness with a more immediately useful OS. Linux is great and all, but it requires work.
Yeah, it does require some work, and it's not for everyone, but the benefits are great =) OSx runs off of a BSD kernel if I remember, similar, and still powerful, but I've never been fond of Mac's "simplicity". They try and dumb it down so much that it's very easy to use, but I have trouble using it because it's almost over-simplified
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:21 PM
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Yeah, it does require some work, and it's not for everyone, but the benefits are great =) OSx runs off of a BSD kernel if I remember, similar, and still powerful, but I've never been fond of Mac's "simplicity".
Well, it's just that, that makes it excellent. The fact that you can open a terminal (or thirty) to get what you want done is all very well, but when you just want to sit and look at pretty interface applications, the option is there waiting for you.
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They try and dumb it down so much that it's very easy to use, but I have trouble using it because it's almost over-simplified
I wouldn't say it's over-simplified, although it is very easy to use. As much as anything, they've made a fast and effortless interface.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:23 PM
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I wouldn't say it's over-simplified, although it is very easy to use. As much as anything, they've made a fast and effortless interface.
It probably is pretty easy to use for most people, but a lot of people I know that do a lot with computers and programming that are used to things being decently complex, it's almost impossible to get anything done. Don't dis on the console either, I always have an xterm up just in case I need to do something
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:24 PM
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Don't dis on the console either, I always have an xterm up just in case I need to do something
Oh, I am just the same. It's always open somewhere in the background.
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:40 PM
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My reply was more of a joke on the 'get an intel mac' comments
From what I've seen the Mac OSx looks pretty nice. But there's no legal hacks of it for PCs yet
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Old 05-29-2006, 09:52 PM
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My reply was more of a joke on the 'get an intel mac' comments
From what I've seen the Mac OSx looks pretty nice. But there's no legal hacks of it for PCs yet
It'll only run on a PC which supports SSE3 (or at worst, SSE2), which narrows down a lot of computers.

Secondly, it's hardware support is quite specific.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:06 PM
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I've witnessed proublems with OSx though. As weird as it sounds, on a university computer at The University of Texas (long story, don't ask why I was there) they had a room full of macs, but alot of them weren't working. They had just updated from OS9 to OSx and apparently OS9 was rejecting OSx...or something around those lines. That, and I've used several different macs, and I don't really find it any simpler to use than Windows. Windows isn't all proublematic like everyone says. At least not for me it isn't.
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Old 05-29-2006, 10:57 PM
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I didn't really expect anyone to know definitively, but was curious if anyone had some ideas. Asking Stefan would have been too easy and he probably would not be open for explaining it either. A few people suggested it was with Mac addresses or so (not the case, both of my OSes use the same internet hardware), and a few other things that aren't practical. Oh well.
I believe I recall the conversation with Stefan, but I don't think it's a topic which should be open to the public of the Graal community
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Old 05-30-2006, 12:34 AM
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If you actually expected an answer, Project Shifter, you would probably be better off asking Stefan yourself.

I don't think it's a good idea to have a thread on the topic
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