What Happened To Classic?

[lordchimp]

Originally Posted by Mafukie

The day they get rid of Classic is the day I leave graal.

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by lordchimp

[lordchimp]

Originally Posted by Minoc

That was pretty fast. Troll much?!

[Minoc]

Originally Posted by lordchimp

That was pretty fast. Troll much?!

Coincidence.

[Tyhm]

Whoa, this place IS a whirlpool...Chimpy just missed the latest Ragnarok incarnation, apparently Floydian left right before I became active again, Com013 poked his head in a few weeks ago...

[war99k]

its died.
i played when it was popular to.

[Hawk]

Originally Posted by Mafukie

The day they get rid of Classic is the day I leave graal.

Enough said

[Devil]

They "got rid" of classic a loooong time ago Mafukie.

[Torankusu]

I think classic's overworld and key-remembered quests should be integrated into a new revived classic-style playerworld.

I think that the overworld should be changed and it should be set in the future of Graal's history, but not have elements like what graal 2001 did. The economy and lack of questing destroyed it.

For a better example, those who remember the Old Graal quests on Classic can have a pretty good idea of what I am talking about.

Because you guys are all right in a way. Classic can't necessarily go away, it's what brought many of us to this game in the first place. But I honestly don't see a future that resembles anything like what its past once was. And Converting things is going to be quite a bit of work.

[Kristi]

Converting the overworld and all the levels at this point would be a bad idea simply because it is outdated. Classic was not the same thing since 1998. quests were added and things were updated and changed. What Tyhm did to classic was very different then what it was years before it, and it was for the better.

At this point, the quests were too simple and easy and show the limitations of the past we do not have anymore. Why put the effort in to converting something thats way subpar when you can take the same ideas and story and make something new with old concepts, displaying the current power the graal engine has.

The current idea, as it has been for the past month or two, is to make a complete connected story with old concepts and characters alongside more material. Something that was completely written out ahead of time, with every quest relating to one another. Not just random quests that have nothing to do with each other. A full story.

This is what I and a few others thought, so now, this is what is being done. Large progress has been made. At this point you cannot release a quest or two, it just has to be completely redone.

[Tyhm]

Maybe we need a list of what makes Classic Classic.

Nafets river, and the bridge, and Fuitad's house.
Brother's House. The Golden Gate. The aliens that are awesome at maths and say Thank you for making that.
Master Li's quest.
Some form of the lizardon caves.
Some form of the Gnome quest.
Some form of Ninji Castle.
Some form of Avalon and (regrettably, the force-uploaded) Destiny.
Supernick's. Burger Refuge. Level13.
Angel Clan.
The Wedding Chapel.
The Swamp.
The pub in the middle of the swamp.
Kull's Castle.
Sardon's Tower.
Zol's Snow Town.
Zol's Pub.
The Desert.
The Mace.
Bowling.
Vangel's Chapel.
Giant beds.

The genius of the old Classic map was that you could Learn it, and build shortcuts. On Kingdoms, if you need to get from Point A to Point B, the shortest path is a straight line - relatively few barriers, none you can't Just Kinda Walk Around. But Classic, to get to Kull's you gotta go up to Vangel's Chapel, give that guy his boots...To get from the swamp to the Snow Town you can't just go straight, you gotta take the bridge (or Fuitad's water slide) through Graal City, take the path behind SuperNick's/NL's to the dirt area, go through Nearorner/Onnett, across a little ways, up the stairs...

I generally object to Server Wipes. It only results in people re-doing other peoples' work and releasing the same ammount of content after months of work that was there in the first place. If that means continuing with the current system and worldmap, so be it - here's some features that ought to be retained, but by all means, update the Lizardon Caves as long as they're Done in some as long as you update while converting, instead of after...'cuz that sucks.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Tyhm

The genius of the old Classic map was that you could Learn it, and build shortcuts. On Kingdoms, if you need to get from Point A to Point B, the shortest path is a straight line - relatively few barriers, none you can't Just Kinda Walk Around. But Classic, to get to Kull's you gotta go up to Vangel's Chapel, give that guy his boots...To get from the swamp to the Snow Town you can't just go straight, you gotta take the bridge (or Fuitad's water slide) through Graal City, take the path behind SuperNick's/NL's to the dirt area, go through Nearorner/Onnett, across a little ways, up the stairs...

im taking it a step further where youve used items you've aquired to make shortcuts, like you can climb a mountain and knock down a certain tree if you find it, so you can hookshot to that fallen tree afterwards, or things along such lines.

[Infernix]

Classic is on the list to be removed as well as the other servers. Its just that well, they dont have any servers to replace classic and those other dead servers at the moment. But when they do (if ever) I'm sure they will be removed from the classic list. (May keep classic status though)

[Torankusu]

Wait now, so what is going on with classic? I see Hell Raven saying one thing, and Tyhm listing another.

I'm interested in seeing something like what you guys are talking about come back to Graal.

[Kristi]

Originally Posted by Torankusu

Wait now, so what is going on with classic? I see Hell Raven saying one thing, and Tyhm listing another.

I'm interested in seeing something like what you guys are talking about come back to Graal.

Tyhm is listing things that are old concepts of classic, what I said is actually happening, since I am in charge of it. Tyhm is a smart man and a previous developer so i am more then happy when he throws out a good list as such

However, Classic is focusing on that medevial zelda feel under my wing, so burger refuge has to go. Eldandy's love shack is coming back. Besides, all good rpgs have a brothel involved quest.