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superb · #1 06-23-2003, 05:22 AM

*Note to mods...this may not be in the appropriate forum...use your best judgement

It has come to my attention that managers of certain playerworlds (e.g. Frolic, Cynical, possibly others) are selling their management rights to other players. I was wondering what the legality of this issue is and whether or not these parties would be punished for doing this. I'm not positive whether or not it has actually taken place yet on these servers, but the rumors are certainly flying about.

Can we get some information about this? It doesn't seem like this would be a legal action and basically Graal is losing money if something like this is occuring.

MarkB · #2 06-23-2003, 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by superb
*Note to mods...this may not be in the appropriate forum...use your best judgement

It has come to my attention that managers of certain playerworlds (e.g. Frolic, Cynical, possibly others) are selling their management rights to other players. I was wondering what the legality of this issue is and whether or not these parties would be punished for doing this. I'm not positive whether or not it has actually taken place yet on these servers, but the rumors are certainly flying about.

Can we get some information about this? It doesn't seem like this would be a legal action and basically Graal is losing money if something like this is occuring.

Not too sure, stefan hasnt pointed this issue out...he will be selling playerworld "domains?" so I dont know legal this is.

Nitkizi · #3 06-23-2003, 05:36 AM

Yes, I was going to bring this up too. I even had a couple of people ask to buy SL for crazy amounts of $500 and $200..

MarkB · #4 06-23-2003, 05:39 AM

Lol, yes, That is wierd, I dont think stefan will allow it though...I wouldnt, it isnt generating him any cash.

zell12 · #5 06-23-2003, 05:42 AM

How would Unixmad be losing money? If you don't pay every month the pw is shut down. God children, think before you speak.

ASouthernMan · #6 06-23-2003, 06:04 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
Yes, I was going to bring this up too. I even had a couple of people ask to buy SL for crazy amounts of $500 and $200..

Dude, you gotta be crazy to not even accept $50 bucks to turn over a world. Just take down all the levels and give them rights

superb · #7 06-23-2003, 06:39 AM

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Dude, you gotta be crazy to not even accept $50 bucks to turn over a world. Just take down all the levels and give them rights

Yes...that's one potential scenario...

And zell..playerworld hosting is sold in 6 month or 12 month chunks...it's not monthly

zell12 · #8 06-23-2003, 06:54 AM

Whats the differance, if Unixmad gets his money who cares?

Scalper · #9 06-23-2003, 07:17 AM

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Originally posted by Nitkizi
Yes, I was going to bring this up too. I even had a couple of people ask to buy SL for crazy amounts of $500 and $200..

You mean they weren't trying to buy me?

superb · #10 06-23-2003, 08:52 AM

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Whats the differance, if Unixmad gets his money who cares?

The point is that the servers have NOT been purchased yet, therefore the managers do not own them. This means they have no right to sell their management rights.

Knuckles · #11 06-23-2003, 10:02 AM

It's like buying somebodys work, and using it?

... But they will pay the fee for the server. So why would unixmad be loosing money? Whatever...

superb · #12 06-23-2003, 10:12 AM

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It's like buying somebodys work, and using it?

You may be the ones working on it, but it is not your property. It's Graal Online's property. Therefore, you shouldn't be allowed to sell something you do not own. Also, anyone doing this should have contacted unixmad before doing it to see if it is okay to do so. If it's okay with him then it's fine, but not until he says so.

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... But they will pay the fee for the server. So why would unixmad be loosing money? Whatever...

For example, rich kid A pays you 20 dollars for your management rights after your server has been up for a month. Rich kid A gets 5 months hosting for 20 bucks. Unixmad looses money because rich kid A pays you instead of him for hosting.

Knuckles · #13 06-23-2003, 11:18 AM

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Originally posted by superb

You may be the ones working on it, but it is not your property. It's Graal Online's property. Therefore, you shouldn't be allowed to sell something you do not own. Also, anyone doing this should have contacted unixmad before doing it to see if it is okay to do so. If it's okay with him then it's fine, but not until he says so.

For example, rich kid A pays you 20 dollars for your management rights after your server has been up for a month. Rich kid A gets 5 months hosting for 20 bucks. Unixmad looses money because rich kid A pays you instead of him for hosting.

I see your point.. but all playerworlds have to pay...
And if the kid wants to pay for the managment position, PLUS the server space (From unixmad), then why not let him? Unixmad isn't loosing any money, is he?

superb · #14 06-23-2003, 11:47 AM

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And if the kid wants to pay for the managment position, PLUS the server space (From unixmad), then why not let him? Unixmad isn't loosing any money, is he?

Why would they do that? They could just buy their own server and cut out the middle man. Of course, this depends on whether or not they get the levels n'stuff along with the rights. But in that case you are selling them rights, graphics, npcs and levels, which means what you are selling them is not yours. You are selling them Graal Online's property.

Knuckles · #15 06-23-2003, 12:41 PM

I understand.