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unixmad · #1 11-29-2001, 02:52 PM

Yes that's true that a stupid guy has exploited a bug on our new portal to change some informations in the database.

It's not a hacker it's only someone that read security forums about security exploits and use them on peoples computers, you don't need to be intelligent to do that just know how to read english and type text on a computer.

This is a minor problem, most of the informations collected by this guy are public and he have not been able to do any bad things.

Since everything we do is done with graal players, people can try to steal informations that are already public, this will make those peoples more stupid.

About passwords, you can sleep well there is no way to have your password, they are encrypted one way in the database and even me and Stefan can not known them.

About the guy that have done it, he is not very intelligent because we have been able to trace him and we now known his name and address, we have contacted the american police and he will soon have troubles.

You must known that we will have a 0 tolerance against peoples that do credit card fraud or security attack, all reports are sent to police for investigation and even if this peoples think they have not been caught, one day or another police will ring there home for investigations, and trust me that if we caught someone we will sue him to make a example.

It's not acceptable that a few peoples just known to have fun when peoples are in troubles, if they have brain problems some specialised doctor can probably help them.

The only results of peoples doing such things are Stefan and Me loosing half a day of work and this is time we don't put to work on Graal.

Now, it will give to much favor to this guy or group of guys to speak of this little event to much, then let's focus on improving the new web site and making the next release of graal (graal2002).

Unixmad that known to be a poor english speaker.

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ArchOwl · #3 11-29-2001, 03:42 PM

YAY!

Saga2001 · #4 11-29-2001, 03:52 PM

good work man.
we lost staff on doomsday bacause of that guy hacking staff rcs...
thanks!

--PastAustin

James205 · #5 11-29-2001, 04:00 PM

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Originally posted by unixmad
Yes that's true that a stupid guys have exploited a bug on our new portal to change some informations in the database.

It's not a hacker it's only someone that read security forums about security exploits and use them on peoples computers, you don't need to be intelligent to do that just known how to read english and type text on a computer.

This is a minor problem, most of the informations collected by this guy are public and he have not been able to do any bad things.

Since everything we do is done with graal players, peoples can try to steal informations that are already public, this will make this peoples more stupids.

About passwords, you can sleep well there is no way to have your password, they are encrypted one way in the database and even me and Stefan can not known them.

About the guy that have done it, he is not very intelligent because we have been able to trace him and we now known is name and address, we have contacted the american police and he will soon have troubles.

You must known that we will have a 0 tolerance against peoples that do credit card fraud or security attack, all reports are send to police for investigation and even if this peoples think they have not been caught, one day or another police will ring there home for investigations, and trust me that if we caught someone we will sue him to make a exemple.

It's not acceptable that a few peoples just known to have fun when peoples are in troubles, if they have brains problems some specialised doctor can probably help them.

The only results of peoples doing such things are Stefan and Me loosing half a day of work and this is time we don't put to work on Graal.

Now, it will give to mush favor to this guy or group of guys to speak of this little event to mush, then let's focus on improving the new web site and making the next release of graal (graal2002).

Unixmad that known to be a poor english speaker.

7-8 hours to help graal out was very hard. In the end I am kind of happy

Thanks Unix!

Reiko_Lonja · #6 11-29-2001, 05:58 PM

haha pot head has 1 post and he's proparly banned or somthing
did any1 else notice that anyone with a decent amount of posts just thanked unixmad but ppl with like 1 - 10 posts tried to diss him.

yeah! thanx man

apriciate(sp?) it

the english aint that bad
just think what it would be like if all of use tried french or german
all id be able to do is say whats in my house, my town and what me and my family look like(which isnt helpful for graal)

anyway thanx man

Bird2prey · #7 11-29-2001, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by Reiko_Lonja
haha pot head has 1 post and he's proparly banned or somthing
did any1 else notice that anyone with a decent amount of posts just thanked unixmad but ppl with like 1 - 10 posts tried to diss him.

yeah! thanx man apriciate(sp?) it

the english aint that bad
just think what it would be like if all of use tried french or german
all id be able to do is say whats in my house, my town and what me and my family look like(which isnt helpful for graal)

anyway thanx man

You've never heard of trooper? He's been on Graal since before you or me, and what he said is true. If you're not a government law enforcement agency you can't do anything, only report the crime and hope they get caught.

cds96 · #8 11-29-2001, 06:06 PM

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Originally posted by pot_head_is_high
blah blah blah

way to get yourself banned.

I think its good that they are going to make an example of people like him, because people who are honest and pay to play all get shafted by one person. Its about time something like this has happened

Reiko_Lonja · #9 11-29-2001, 06:11 PM

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Originally posted by cds96
way to get yourself banned.

I think its good that they are going to make an example of people like him, because people who are honest and pay to play all get shafted by one person. Its about time something like this has happened

exactly

and all the money they get from sueing these punks could be a bit of encourgement to graal

Bird2prey · #10 11-29-2001, 06:28 PM

You people seem to be missing the point. Getting rid of hackers is all well and god, but the truth is Graal staff can't get a hold of someones adress, name etc. so UnixMad, stop lying.

cds96 · #11 11-29-2001, 06:37 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey
You people seem to be missing the point. Getting rid of hackers is all well and god, but the truth is Graal staff can't get a hold of someones adress, name etc. so UnixMad, stop lying.

im sure you can trace someone...

wait a second how do police trace people threw the net... youre an idiot.

Bird2prey · #12 11-29-2001, 06:47 PM

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Originally posted by cds96
im sure you can trace someone...

wait a second how do police trace people threw the net... youre an idiot.

Maybe if you had the brain power to understand what I meant you wouln't be saying that. UnixMad claims he got the hackers name and adress BEFORE he contacted the police, thus claiming to have done so himself (Or another Graal admin or other) So i'm not saying law enforcement agencies cannot track people over the net... they can, however Graal admin is NOT a law enforcement agency and non-government orginisations have no ability to track people over the net.

You should understand what a person says before you make a fool of yourself.

Reiko_Lonja · #13 11-29-2001, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by cds96
im sure you can trace someone...

wait a second how do police trace people threw the net... youre an idiot.

yip
if they traced his IP and Port they could use sub7 to get on his com and then go and see who it's registered by and they more then likly have there name and adress in there and probably more stuff that they are unaware of and while u were there u could delete some stuff from his com and change his background and color and piss him off and then destroy his harddrive so his com will stop working. then u could put a matrix style msg up on his scree saying" ah ha u suxors donkei d*ck".

eeeee....i meen u could tell the police

oopppps

cds96 · #14 11-29-2001, 06:50 PM

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Originally posted by Reiko_Lonja

yip
if they traced his IP and Port they could use sub7 to get on his com and then go and see who it's registered by and they more then likly have there name and adress in there and probably more stuff that they are unaware of and while u were there u could delete some stuff from his com and change his background and color and piss him off and then destroy his harddrive so his com will stop working. then u could put a matrix style msg up on his scree saying" ah ha u suxors donkei d*ck".

eeeee....i meen u could tell the police

oopppps

thank you

cds96 · #15 11-29-2001, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by Bird2prey
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Originally posted by cds96
im sure you can trace someone...

wait a second how do police trace people threw the net... youre an idiot.
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Maybe if you had the brain power to understand what I meant you wouln't be saying that. UnixMad claims he got the hackers name and adress BEFORE he contacted the police, thus claiming to have done so himself (Or another Graal admin or other) So i'm not saying law enforcement agencies cannot track people over the net... they can, however Graal admin is NOT a law enforcement agency and non-government orginisations have no ability to track people over the net.

You should understand what a person says before you make a fool of yourself.

what was the point of that muppet?