Free server.... - Page 2

thrashsoul · #16 09-19-2004, 04:50 AM

I think this isn't needed.

Slash-P2P · #17 09-19-2004, 05:00 AM

My opinion is, trial accounts should completly expire after 7 days or something. Also, the IP of who made the account should be recorded to it so they cannot make another trial account or something like that....

It lets people get a taste of Graal...and not play it forever for free....

I am for limiting trial accounts even more.

vahn32 · #18 09-19-2004, 07:49 AM

I'm for putting less of a restriction on Trials in some cases, and more of a restriction in others.
For example: On Era you can't even KILL anyone, yet you can take damage. Going around after buying your brand new gun and being restricted from defending yourself is complete ludacris. Then again, most everything on Era is ludacris these days.

1 PM per minute is quite a long time if you're trying to have a conversation. Sure, you could do it on player, but you're too busy trying to run into a NoPK zone because you can't hit people.

Making a server dedicated to Trials might work out if an automatic 'hacking' detection system was implemented and instant bans for trials instead of a staff 'warning' in RC.

Spark910 · #19 09-19-2004, 01:23 PM

While it would be nice, it would be too bad too.
Trial accounts aren't designed for play - and quite how all these people can stay on a trial account for years being reset with every connection is beyond me - so if you gave them a whole server, they'd be even less likely to upgrade.

XxDarkrazorxX · #20 09-19-2004, 02:45 PM

I agree....just.......give them a server and stuff them in 1 level ^_^ XD

brock128 · #21 09-19-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konidias

You can't compare old classic to a new free classic. It's impossible. For one, at the time, classic was really the only server. So everyone played it and it was the one that had all the focus on it. Two, Graal was new to pretty much everyone, and the community was new and all inexperienced. You can't bring back the past just like it was.

Also, some of you keep acting like Stefan/Unix care about the playercount. That is not their priority. 5000 free players doesn't equal 1 gold player in profit.

The fact that the focus was new and different really helped. Kingdoms is just another generic, crappy MMORPG. Graal, the original graal, was new and different. That's why it attracted so many people.

But then one day, instead of keeping a happy userbase, they desided to make money off it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spark910

Trial accounts aren't designed for play

See my above post.

Darlene159 · #22 09-19-2004, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock128

But then one day, instead of keeping a happy userbase, they desided to make money off it.

You act like it is a crime for Stefan and Unixmad to get the money back that they have put into Graal...unless they had mega-money from the start or someone else footing the bill for them, then they couldn't do it forever. Money doesn't grow on trees you know

vahn32 · #23 09-19-2004, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159

You act like it is a crime for Stefan and Unixmad to get the money back that they have put into Graal...unless they had mega-money from the start or someone else footing the bill for them, then they couldn't do it forever. Money doesn't grow on trees you know

In Sims 2 it does 8) xD

Sure, I agree that the owners of Graal should be able to reap some profit off of the game, but I don't think that putting super heavy restrictions on Trial accounts is going to help them much. ;p

GoZelda · #24 09-19-2004, 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darlene159

You act like it is a crime for Stefan and Unixmad to get the money back that they have put into Graal...unless they had mega-money from the start or someone else footing the bill for them, then they couldn't do it forever. Money doesn't grow on trees you know

I thought the classics were living off the 'Gold' accounts back then?

Crono · #25 09-19-2004, 09:30 PM

I'm against more restrictions. Graal was once free and I'm still pissed off about the full p2p thing introduced in the summer of 2002, when enigma died after having a GOOD WEEK.

Darlene159 · #26 09-19-2004, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GoZelda

I thought the classics were living off the 'Gold' accounts back then?

What? Gold accounts were not introduced from the beginning, back when there was just classic, then a few more added, Graal was free

craig17 · #27 09-20-2004, 01:05 AM

I dunno I think It just be fun to have a good old memeory of graal just free for everyone, It just feels like graal is falling apart slowly. mayeb graal 3d will put it back togtehr but I can see it turing out to be really greedy as it goes on like kingdoms, guess we will see.

Spark910 · #28 09-20-2004, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brock128

See my above post.

Well:

Quote:

Graalonline.com Website - http://www.graalonline.com/about/join.php
The main purpose of this Trial Mode is to make sure you can successfully install and run the Graal game client on your computer. Secondly, this gives you a chance to check out what Graal worlds look like before you decide on a subscription plan.

Basically to make sure it all works, and then there is to see if you like the look of it too - not designed for playing on, atleast not for that long.

But hmm, yeah, well... let say I'd move some things around and change some subscription plans if I was in control

konidias · #29 09-20-2004, 05:37 PM

It goes like this:

1. Graal was made. It was free at first. Lots of people came and played.

2. The servers started getting expensive to maintain. Every new playerworld that came out required more bandwidth, space, etc.

3. They introduced gold accounts, and introduced Graal 2k1/Bomy Moon.

4. Then eventually I guess they still weren't making enough (especially when 2k1 started to fade out) so they made the buy a gold and get classic free forever, and that's how it's been since.

5. They made GK to try to attract people to gold, and turned 2k1 into a classic server because it had fallen apart.

In my opinion, I think they should have more servers on the gold list. Like a few awesome playerworlds should make it gold. That way people will feel that they get what they pay for. Instead of just GK that a lot of people no longer play, including myself.

Spark910 · #30 09-20-2004, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by konidias

In my opinion, I think they should have more servers on the gold list. Like a few awesome playerworlds should make it gold. That way people will feel that they get what they pay for. Instead of just GK that a lot of people no longer play, including myself.

Yeah, this is the current thing being worked on, along with other things.