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Old 12-30-2007, 11:41 PM
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Considering what I've seen, none of them would be E (except perhaps Atlantis) and most of them would be above M. You've got to realize that the material has to be rated including the interaction by the playing community. Whether you want to accept that or not, it's a multiplayer game, and they are a part of each other's gaming experience...

If the user's profile states that their age is 18 or older, and they click on "I agree" to enter the playerworld, then there should be no problem. As it stands, parents should know what their kids are looking at currently. I'm sure a lot of parents would expect a refund if they knew what their children were being exposed to.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:31 AM
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No, ratings aren't made by interaction online. They rate the original content, and if it has online play, they put a notice that it may change with online experience. Animal Crossing gets an E, yet you can go to someone's town who has drawn pixelated sex on their designs, and they can curse at you the whole time and insult you.
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Old 12-31-2007, 12:54 AM
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In any case, a lot of parents wouldn't want their children playing Graal. I'm not really sure what was being asked here? Can I have NPCs having sex? Can they curse? Or can we let players have sex (online? o.o) or curse?
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Old 12-31-2007, 01:00 AM
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Old 12-31-2007, 02:22 AM
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In any case, a lot of parents wouldn't want their children playing Graal. I'm not really sure what was being asked here? Can I have NPCs having sex? Can they curse? Or can we let players have sex (online? o.o) or curse?
The question is about allowing more mature content. Blood, gore, NPCs cursing, decapitation... just overall more mature themes. I remember I had a guillotine on old Bravo that cut off the players head and had it bouncing around with blood splattering around... PWA came on and said I had to remove it.
There's a difference between intentional content, and content introduced by an online atmosphere. Coding an NPC to curse is different than a player cursing. I'd like to see it possible to have players confirm their age and allow more mature content.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:37 AM
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I noticed some people mentioning NPCs having sex and I'll say right now that sex is above the M rating and I don't even think it should be considered in the least.

This topic is about the mature themes that aren't related to sex, such as violence, blood, gore, etc.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:48 AM
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I noticed some people mentioning NPCs having sex and I'll say right now that sex is above the M rating and I don't even think it should be considered in the least.

This topic is about the mature themes that aren't related to sex, such as violence, blood, gore, etc.
'Strong Sexual Content' isn't above the ESRB M rating.
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Old 12-31-2007, 03:51 AM
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Listen, don't even try to reach players in a mature themed server. It wouldn't work out.

Trying to create this adult theme for a game with a completely childish look to it, completely will not work out.
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'Strong Sexual Content' isn't above the ESRB M rating.
Explain the AO (Adults Only) rating then.
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Old 12-31-2007, 04:13 AM
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Explain the AO (Adults Only) rating then.
...prolonged scenes of intense violence and/or graphic sexual content and nudity.

Doesn't matter either way. An 'M' server isn't a good idea.
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Old 12-31-2007, 05:27 AM
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I noticed some people mentioning NPCs having sex and I'll say right now that sex is above the M rating and I don't even think it should be considered in the least.

This topic is about the mature themes that aren't related to sex, such as violence, blood, gore, etc.
violence, blood, gore.


Unholy Nation:
violence

Zodiac:
violence
blood

Era:
violence
blood

Valikoria:
violence

Classic:
violence

N-Pulse:
violence

Delteria:
violence

Atlantis:
violence

These are just what I know from the little I play classic servers.

Also, lets set this straight- you really can't show gore in a 2d game with 32x32 images ...
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Old 12-31-2007, 05:54 AM
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Regarding Nudity, Gore/Blood, and Violence, a game must possess the following to receive a rating of 'M'.

The game must contain extended or continuous 'adult themed' content in that:

-Said content must be of a realistic nature with regards to gore and violence (See games like GTA3).
(Note: This is why games like Ratchet & Clank are rated 'E' even though they are combat-oriented).

-Games with nudity must contain a sexual connotation.
(Showing brief nudity in games is not considered Mature until sexually suggestive elements come into play. Simply showing breasts is not suggesting that kids should go have sex.)

Hope this clears a few misconceptions up.
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:18 AM
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-Games with nudity must contain a sexual connotation.
(Showing brief nudity in games is not considered Mature until sexually suggestive elements come into play. Simply showing breasts is not suggesting that kids should go have sex.)
You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:32 AM
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You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"
i am so gettign Riviera for those mornings of bored PC useage
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Old 12-31-2007, 06:42 AM
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You can have sex in Fable and it's only M rated, whereas public bath scenes are unlockables in Riviera and it's only T rated.

ESRB doesn't seem strict on games that don't have the words "Auto" or "Kombat"
Is there sex or intent to have sex in the public bath scenes? If not, then that's why it's T rated, which reinforces my point.
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