What Happened To Classic? - Page 3

z4nz0k3n · #31 12-05-2006, 01:52 AM

I really do miss old classic. I don't understand really the technical aspects of the NPC server or how clientside acts now, but apparently it's not an easy matter of just switching a few vars around.

Nobody is really expecting Classic to be transformed into the server it should be in a day or even a month. However, so few ppl are actually working on it and updates take forever. That in no way justifies that it should be removed, however. Classic is an official Graal server and shouldn't be done away with despite its current position. I personally can't wait until the day everything *is* brought back up, and that will most likely be the day I upgrade and bring more friends here. =P

As for "stickying" Classic to the top of the serverlist, that's a fairly simple thing to do, all you need to do is have a separate folder between Gold and Playerworlds and name it Classic. Then click on the server named Classic. (Graal > Classic > Classic) I think that's a good idea.

Devil · #32 12-05-2006, 02:40 AM

Give them time, they will see the waste of space it currently is and remove it.

Keeping classic alive is like pushing **** up hill.

jake13jake · #33 12-07-2006, 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Devil

Give them time, they will see the waste of space it currently is and remove it.

Keeping classic alive is like pushing **** up hill.

Actually, it's more so a problem of getting the player base involved in development like it used to be. I'm making horses, and I ask players if they could make a spyfire gani since I don't have anyone I can ask on staff to make it, and not one submission yet.

Rufus · #34 12-07-2006, 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Actually, it's more so a problem of getting the player base involved in development like it used to be. I'm making horses, and I ask players if they could make a spyfire gani since I don't have anyone I can ask on staff to make it, and not one submission yet.

What's a "Spyfire"?

Tyhm · #35 12-07-2006, 06:35 AM

Spyfire=the partial-explosion used for horses-breathing-fire.

But if you have an explosion gani, it's kinda trivial.

And if you don't, then you don't have the bombs for them to eat in the first place.

Devil · #36 12-07-2006, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by jake13jake

Actually, it's more so a problem of getting the player base involved in development like it used to be. I'm making horses, and I ask players if they could make a spyfire gani since I don't have anyone I can ask on staff to make it, and not one submission yet.

You're supposed to be semi-smart yes?

Get the point, no one wants to help because they know their submission is a waste of time and know it won't bring in players. It's dead, let's move on hey?

Demisis_P2P · #37 12-07-2006, 01:54 PM

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and Playerworlds Can't Give Passwords, so newbies can play Classic without the "Mask of Majora" syndrome - "Every time I go there, it's the same day! I have to redo the [by now] stupid Push The Block quest, then I have to redo the [by now] lame Save The Castle quest..." - instead they just get frustrated at having to remember a 20-character password on a nag-screen: "Just $20 to buy the game and upgrade forever, you'll never have to deal with another one of these Password Saves!" - but people will suffer through such things to play a Free Game, they're used to it.

Era has a password system, but it's basically just for staff and players who want the extra security of another password (or who feel that their account might be compromised). As soon as you log on the coloreffect of the level is set to black, no items can be dropped and you can't move until you enter the password. The passwords are encoded and stored in the players strings, but it probably wouldn't be hard to create something similar that stores all the players strings in a text file and then re-sets them from the textfile to their strings when they log back on and enter the password. It wouldn't be legal to do that though :P

maximus_asinus · #38 12-07-2006, 06:34 PM

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Post.

Maybe something like this:

A trial account logs on, and starts playing. When they beat the first quest, they are given a (unique?) password, which the player would input the next time they logged on. In doing so, their account is restored to the last quest they beat (item and heart wise only, deaths/kills/etc wouldn't be saved to keep the incentive to upgrade).

The passwords could be preset on the server, saved in a server string, and then could be combined with a piece of personal (to the computer) information to prevent password sharing (maybe combining the PC ID into the password in some manner?).

Just borrowing ideas from other games.

jake13jake · #39 12-07-2006, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by maximus_asinus

Maybe something like this:

A trial account logs on, and starts playing. When they beat the first quest, they are given a (unique?) password, which the player would input the next time they logged on. In doing so, their account is restored to the last quest they beat (item and heart wise only, deaths/kills/etc wouldn't be saved to keep the incentive to upgrade).

The passwords could be preset on the server, saved in a server string, and then could be combined with a piece of personal (to the computer) information to prevent password sharing (maybe combining the PC ID into the password in some manner?).

Just borrowing ideas from other games.

Remember when UN did that? Stefan and Unixmad won't go for it.

maximus_asinus · #40 12-08-2006, 12:22 AM

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Remember when UN did that? Stefan and Unixmad won't go for it.

I don't remember anything UN does because I don't really care about it.

Tyhm · #41 12-08-2006, 12:52 AM

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Remember when UN did that? Stefan and Unixmad won't go for it.

And I think it's high time that regulation was rethought. It was important at the dawn of P2P that no servers have exceptions - because enough people were still hanging around the proverbial parking lot complaining about how they had to pay, it would have caught on like wildfire, hacks would come out - it woulda been messy.

Now the parking lot's empty. So now we can start letting in a few people who didn't pay for a few minutes.

Mark Sir Link · #42 12-09-2006, 08:16 PM

What happened to guest accounts, which were supposed to be the future of the game and have plenty of convincing power for consumers to upgrade accounts?

Crono · #43 12-09-2006, 09:03 PM

Guest accounts = bad idea in my opinion but whatever.

Tyhm · #44 12-09-2006, 09:48 PM

Scrapped, I think.
A Guest Account could either be pretty much the same as a Regular Account, in which case they never upgrade (and become a security risk), or pretty much the same as a Ghost Account, in which case why bother?

Thus, they should do passwords. Pretty much the same as a really annoying regular account.

p2p_Sir_Link · #45 12-10-2006, 05:37 AM

I see nothing wrong with switching to guest accounts since they claimed their would be a time limit on playability. Simply offer the accounts something, allow them to save but stop progressing on servers at a certain point (I.E, on Kingdoms, don't allow them to level past 10). Give them an incentive, and if they choose to pay, let them keep the stuff they got while trials.