Seriously can we make adverts? - Page 3

Rufus · #31 10-27-2006, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Tom

Hmm yes.

I think graal should be advertised as a whole, showing players when they join the game there is a variety of different worlds to join. And if they dont like any of them, they can make their own world just the way they like it

Sorry for the double post.

Some basic template sizes of what banners you get now, maybe everyone could try and make their own banners of a chosen size? Doesnt matter if you go outside the size of the templates.
They are just the general shapes.

Think that would be a good idea?

Standard banner sizes:

There's not much material to work with though at the moment though. I might commission some Graal art myself.

Stephen · #32 10-27-2006, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

There's not much material to work with though at the moment though. I might commission some Graal art myself.

omg liek I can draw and liek I liek moneyz.

Rufus · #33 10-27-2006, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen

omg liek I can draw and liek I liek moneyz.

omg liek I hav moneyz and liek I liek ppl who can draw.

Matt · #34 10-27-2006, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

We build there servers for free. Now they want us to advertise for them also...

Stop trying to make it sound like you have no choices and your being forced into something you don't want to do

. You know that's not the case at all, you have the option of developing a server, and alot of players see that to be fun, which it is. You always have options, remember that.

Tyhm · #35 10-27-2006, 11:56 PM

*shrugs* I did add the caveat it'd be nice to get official permission. I smell smoke; the first person to actually buy banners on Graal's behalf may suffer The Usual Backlash. Or maybe not, it's always a surprise.

Dude, don't invent quotes to back up your "argument", let's at least pretend to behave. Neither the account nor post quoted exist, and yes, amazingly, that defines spam.

Word of mouth probably IS better than banner-ads. In fact we've been discussing it allllllll the way down in Future Improvements - The Last Public Forum - about (FOR THOSE OF US WHO CHOOSE TO HELP) which method would be most effective, and when the best time to advertise would be. Given that such a thread already exists, let this thread continue under the assumption that there will be banners regardless of their relative efficacy, and work on finalizing the best banners possible in the event they'll be deployed.

Crono · #36 10-27-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt

Stop trying to make it sound like you have no choices and your being forced into something you don't want to do

. You know that's not the case at all, you have the option of developing a server, and alot of players see that to be fun, which it is. You always have options, remember that.

Development is like an addiction really, they addicted me :[

Rufus · #37 10-28-2006, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

Word of mouth probably IS better than banner-ads. In fact we've been discussing it allllllll the way down in Future Improvements - The Last Public Forum - about (FOR THOSE OF US WHO CHOOSE TO HELP) which method would be most effective, and when the best time to advertise would be. Given that such a thread already exists, let this thread continue under the assumption that there will be banners regardless of their relative efficacy, and work on finalizing the best banners possible in the event they'll be deployed.

I agree, there are better ways, like I said in the other thread, "we understand what an ad is and what it is not" but it seems to me that people are not going to be happy until some are made, which is silly.

Once advertised (which I personally feel should come later) how will people get players to stay? Is there a quality server around enough for a mass amount of people to join? Sadly, I'm not sure there is.

zim5354 · #38 10-28-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Skyld

That's different to Cyberjoueurs wanting us to advertise for them. Word of mouth is voluntary; you tell someone because you want to. Not because you have to.

Yea your right happy?

Tyhm · #39 10-28-2006, 12:02 AM

Meh, nothing WRONG with making banner ads. It's not going to hurt Graal any to Also have banners, regardless of what the Best Method is; I just hope we also get to use some alternatives.

That said, OMG BRILLYUNT IDEA FOR A BANNER, OK, IT ARE ANIMATED, AND THIS NOOB RUNS PAST A HOUSE ON A GREEN FIELD, AND THIS BADDY'S CHASING HIM, SO HE DROPS A BOMB, AND THEN THE BOMB GOES BOOOM!, NO MORE BADDY!

It'd be nostalgic anyway.

Tyhm · #40 10-28-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by zim5354

Yea your right happy?

Would you quit your bloody whining and go elsewhere? "WAH, I DON'T WANNA ADVERTISE GRAAL!" Seriously! It's like walking into the chess club and whining that Chess is boring! If you don't like it, don't contribute!

Rufus · #41 10-28-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

Meh, nothing WRONG with making banner ads. It's not going to hurt Graal any to Also have banners, regardless of what the Best Method is; I just hope we also get to use some alternatives.

What is the point in advertising things which are -hopefully- going to be improved in the near future? It seems logical to advertise once servers are of better quality.

Matt · #42 10-28-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerami

Development is like an addiction really, they addicted me :[

Well actually that's very true, but there's still ways to stop. You just need to gain some self control.

Tyhm · #43 10-28-2006, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Rufus

What is the point in advertising things which are -hopefully- going to be improved in the near future? It seems logical to advertise once servers are of better quality.

I agree wholeheartedly - especially as regards the website, which is not fit to entertain guests - but why Not get the invitations ready? No, by no means should we send them out, but we can (to follow the metaphor) write them out, seal the envelopes and stamp 'em...
Thus, the ideal banner-ad would have content such as is unlikely to change between points A and B. Or, content which predicts the future environment. Thus, if it were announced (to flog a dead horse) that there would be some manner of Hub World and some manner of Global Quest, it would behoove Graal to have an advertisment ready which mentions such things. Likewise, I doubt the existing worlds will have so total a makeover that the characters/ganis/tileset will become obsolete, thus one could patch together screenshots into an ad...though the plot and content of such an ad leave room for speculation.

Rufus · #44 10-28-2006, 12:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tyhm

No, by no means should we send them out, but we can (to follow the metaphor) write them out, seal the envelopes and stamp 'em...

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I agree with that, it just seemed like everyone was rushing to get things done, that's all.

I can get us onto Newgrounds front page, but I can see what kind of impact this would do, I currently don't think it's worth using that option.

Tyhm · #45 10-28-2006, 12:20 AM

Not yet, but let's hold that thought. When Graal's ready, NewGrounds' front page will be an incredible boon - especially if we can advertise something like that it's a Free Game again (or at least, Shareware on one Read-Only Newbie server, which is as good as Free for the first few hours)

You know, while we're at it, why NOT campaign via advertisements? Why not make banners that advertise the Graal of the Future, the way we want it to be? It may help sell the top admins on the idea if the ad campaign's already ready already.