After 6 years

[Crono]

Originally Posted by Demisis_P2P

I think this idea has already been floated, but I think that Graal should be marketed as a FREE game again.
Let people play and develop on UC servers for free and charge players to play on "Classic" servers.

1) Then it wouldn't really be a free game.
2) No, terrible idea. Classic servers should have never been p2p, the bit where you upgraded once and could play Classic servers forever was good and the limit but constantly making people p2p our beloved servers is what started Graal's decline to begin with.

CJ's own quality servers were supposed to be p2p, not ours. Charging people to play on player content is just being lazy. You need to think of it from a player's perspective.

[FaLLChiLD]

Originally Posted by Crono

1) Then it wouldn't really be a free game.
2) No, terrible idea. Classic servers should have never been p2p, the bit where you upgraded once and could play Classic servers forever was good and the limit but constantly making people p2p our beloved servers is what started Graal's decline to begin with.

CJ's own quality servers were supposed to be p2p, not ours. Charging people to play on player content is just being lazy. You need to think of it from a player's perspective.

This is how it should be.

[xnervNATx]

Originally Posted by TheJames

If you'd pay attention, and stop being an idiot; and looking for tinw flaws, I said we're currently working on small tile errors like that, gawsh


and Dem, I agree with you %110, something needs to be changed about that

"small" is not the term i would use, ive walked about 5 mins around and all i see is tiles errors...i could give you way more images if you want.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by Stefan

That could work although there are a lot of people who have classic lifetime account and would complain if they cannot play for free on classic servers anymore.

Leave lifetime classic accounts intact then.
The idea isn't to find a way to charge the current players more, it's to lure a LOT of new players to the game to play on the free servers and then hope that a fraction of them upgrade every time their favorite server starts charging.

I guess the problem is that there is no way to test something like this to see if it would be successful. You'd just need to change your whole business model and then pray, which kind of sucks.

[salesman]

Suddenly charging for something that used to be free is a great way to upset/lose a lot of customers (assuming they're paying for something elsewhere -- in-game gelat shops, server rental, CJ-made "gold" servers, etc).

[Hiro]

Originally Posted by Crono

2) No, terrible idea. Classic servers should have never been p2p, the bit where you upgraded once and could play Classic servers forever was good and the limit but constantly making people p2p our beloved servers is what started Graal's decline to begin with.

CJ's own quality servers were supposed to be p2p, not ours. Charging people to play on player content is just being lazy. You need to think of it from a player's perspective.

this

[sssssssssss]

Originally Posted by salesman

Suddenly charging for something that used to be free is a great way to upset/lose a lot of customers (assuming they're paying for something elsewhere -- in-game gelat shops, server rental, CJ-made "gold" servers, etc).

Hence graals decline since it went p2p for the first time.
Probably lost almost half the players just from the first one, would be a huge mistake to make it any worse. I wont play if CJ ever does anything like that.

Should just be to pay for gold servers, pay to dev on servers, and pay to buy a server. There should be no Trial accounts. CJ, you will still make your money off the 20-45 servers in dev right now. Its really probably more than that. ~ $70 every 6 months from all of them, then staff buying gold to work on them, you'd have ALOT more people on the classic servers if it was free, your Graal Kingdoms and Zone people would still be paying like they do now, and the game wouldn't be slowly dying. It wasent that hard to work out for me, why is it for CJ?

[Sage_Shadowbane]

I personally don't get how Graal "needs" to be a p2p game at this point.. it's already at the brink of extinction. Even when it was thriving it was a free game, and even when it first became p2p, I could buy an account for 7$ and have a lifetime playability on Classic servers, why all of a sudden was there an inflation??

[Crono1508]

Originally Posted by Sage_Shadowbane

I personally don't get how Graal "needs" to be a p2p game at this point.. it's already at the brink of extinction. Even when it was thriving it was a free game, and even when it first became p2p, I could buy an account for 7$ and have a lifetime playability on Classic servers, why all of a sudden was there an inflation??

It was only $7.00 in the past when P2P was first introduced?

[Sage_Shadowbane]

Originally Posted by Crono1508

It was only $7.00 in the past when P2P was first introduced?

Roughly yes, I don't remember the exact price but I know it was somewhere in the range of $7.00.

[Admins]

$29 is hardly $7 The price was one time also $19 for 3 months gold + lifetime classic. If you are going off-topic at least stick to the facts. Making a game "free" also doesn't magically increase the player count, it needs to attract more players first. We will see if we can do something once v6 is finished.

Looking forward to Atrius

[Sage_Shadowbane]

Originally Posted by Stefan

$29 is hardly $7 The price was one time also $19 for 3 months gold + lifetime classic. If you are going off-topic at least stick to the facts. Making a game "free" also doesn't magically increase the player count, it needs to attract more players first. We will see if we can do something once v6 is finished.

Looking forward to Atrius

The price is 29$ now.. o.O. I remember Classic accounts being VERY cheap awhile back in comparison to the price they are at now. And yeah sorry for going off-topic. I'm also looking forward to Atrius.

[Unkownsoldier]

Thats why everyone had like 5 classic accounts..

[Devil]

Originally Posted by Stefan

$29 is hardly $7 The price was one time also $19 for 3 months gold + lifetime classic. If you are going off-topic at least stick to the facts. Making a game "free" also doesn't magically increase the player count, it needs to attract more players first. We will see if we can do something once v6 is finished.

Looking forward to Atrius

"We'll see if we can do something" please elaborate? Sounds interesting.

[Crono1508]

I would assume they're working on a new theme (hence the new website) with the release of Graal v6 because its been awhile now for that new release...