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People frequenting this forum probably know that I do not often create new threads, even more so as my status on Graal depends on Unixmad not noticing me mostly, but with the increasing hostility towards discussing new topics within the thread that they came up in, I think it is appropriate to create a whole thread for this issue.
It seems to me based on my casual observation that there is a discrepancy in the perceptions of this forum, of the forum regulars on the one hand and the newbie scripters and Stefan on the other hand. The first group wants, unsurprisingly, a forum to discuss scripting, much like a persistent and more popular version of everybody's favourite IRC channel. This includes showing off awesome scripts, discussing awesome features of the scripting engine, or perhaps making fun of unawesome ones, or even requesting more awesome ones, or teaching people how to script so they may contribute to the set of awesome scripts being shown off here. I have most often been able to find people willing to elaborate on their theories on how exactly some mysterious bonus features actually work or what the fastest way to concatenate two floating point numbers, backwards, is, and often I have been able to learn a new, fascinating detail about how a certain function that has been giving trouble to some scripter does not work.
Then there are the other dudes who think that this forum exists as a kind of storage unit for scripters, whose sole raison d'être (that's French) is to perpetually refresh the thread listing, eagerly awaiting an opportunity to post a sample from their infinite, absolutely complete database of premade scripts that will interface with just about any kind of hacked-together experience-levelup-classes system stolen from Valikorlia's second remake, especially the one that used putnpc to transfer state between recursive function calls.
The guys posting the previously described sort of threads, while not being inherently bad persons on a social level, who might have more friends, social life and contacts with the opposite gender of choice than all the people in the previous group combined, contribute nothing to this forum. The traditional argument against what I just said is obviously that it will teach them to be slightly more awesome scripters, which will, after a few iterations, make them awesome enough to switch to the first group and provide fun and entertainment for the whole gscript family and also exciting and amazing new gaming experiences to the dudes in the third, unmentioned group of people who just regard this forum where you do not go in order to avoid nerds. Yet I consider this extremely unlikely!
This is because most of these guys do not actually care about the scripting. They enter these forums with a `u giev' attitude and leave it with a `u sukc' mood because, obviously, you cannot create your own playerworlds with this method. Yeah, sure, the socially-minded people from the first groups might eventually give in and just post the script and the original poster might somehow manage to not break it while pasting it to his 1.39 gserver and someone will eventually have fun playing with it until the newly hired NAT person breaks it when they try to fix the formatting, but after all, no one learned anything from the whole experience and it just leads to a bunch of frustration for everybody, except perhaps the arrogant and mean people from the first groups who did not even bother reading the thread, and the other guys' playerworld did not really profit from it either.
So, you see, this kind of thread leads not where we want these forums to be. Sure, the liberal anti-moderation hippies now can argue that we should not tell the Graalians where they lead their forums to and that we should not pretend to know more about scripting than they do just because they do not know how to make their doors open when the player with the correct amount of bombs passes them slightly to the east, and I am not even going to argue with them because I am just here, with this thread, going to suggest that we create a whole forum for these guys, instead of pointing out that we do exactly that outside of this single forum and do not even have the pretense of knowing how to script to make people listen to us for no reason other than our retarded personal moral values.
Indeed I suggest that we create a Scripts Requests subforum. In this forum, and only in this forum, it will be permissible to Request A Script With A Specific Effect and to Post Whole Scripts That Somehow Do Not Do What You Wanted. This will make it easy for the dedicated individuals that gladly deal with these requets, instead of wasting their time teaching people how to script, to satisfy those requests with yet unexperienced efficiency, without having to deal with the nerds in the main scripting forum talking about why you should not using serverr. strings as loop counters for some retarded reason.
I also request that this forum is by default filtered out of the "Search for new posts" search mask because that is how I usually check if anything interesting happened. |
01-23-2006, 07:52 PM
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