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Old 05-25-2005, 01:30 AM
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Haha. Us oldbies?
How about this:
Picture yourself a global admin. People message you all the time. You give out your only personal instant messenger screen name so that you can address issues ASAP. You are pretty much on-duty every second you're on the computer. That's me.
It takes a great deal of patience to listen to some of these people and solve their problems, especially when they can be so silly.
Here's a tissue *hands VT a tissue*. Now, are you done complaining? I've had my AIM and email in my profile/signature for a very long time now. People go to me on Zone with hundreds of questions daily, but I don't complain. Why? Well, because I knew what I was getting into when I took the position. It seems you had NO CLUE has to what you were getting yourself into when you made the team.

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Okay, so now you're agreeing?
I said it was a problem to begin with, so what's with the "now" comment?


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Uh, you said I wasn't a team player. If you want to know the extent of my teamliness, ask my team mates. Otherwise, shut up.
If only your teammates know how well you work, then you have not done your job.

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You don't see what happens behind closed doors and you make these assumptions. You're pathetic. Go outside, the short bus is waiting.
THAT'S THE THING. PEOPLE ONLY KNOW HOW WELL YOU WORK BEHIND THE "CLOSED DOORS". YOU'RE A PWA, OR ATLEAST WERE. THE PLAYERS SHOULD KNOW HOW YOU WORK, NOT ONLY THOSE THAT ARE BEHIND THOSE CLOSED DOORS. PWA MEMBERS WORK WITH THE PLAYERS, NOT ONLY WITH THE OTHER GLOBAL STAFF. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE FAILED AS A PWA MEMBER.

Man...you really love to complain.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:30 AM
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It didn't surprise me at first, no. But more and more people are getting "global staff accounts", meaning they get free access. I think that should be extended to me as well.
No way, Stefan and Notepad totally slowed down on giving away free gold. It basically never happens now .
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Most of them do want to be staffers, simply because they get recognition and power.
Recognition and power doesn't pay for your gold, which is all I'm saying
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:34 AM
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It must piss you off that you haven't gotten smack for them. Oh wait, you got a nice position on Zone doing nothing. Free power/publicity!

Once again, VT running his mouth about things he knows nothing of. I worked very hard for my position on Zone. Where do you think most of the ideas, before I was hired, came from? I would help Stefan a lot before I was hired, so one day we talked and he thought it would be best if I joined the team. I joined the team back in January or February, and since then, I've continued helping out on Zone. Kthxbai.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:36 AM
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Here's a tissue *hands VT a tissue*. Now, are you done complaining? I've had my AIM and email in my profile/signature for a very long time now.
Given that you are needed only on one server and only for specific questions, that doesn't seem very signficant. Especially when the questions are probably frequently the same, so you don't actually need any judgement/thinking skills.

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People go to me on Zone with hundreds of questions daily, but I don't complain. Why? Well, because I knew what I was getting into when I took the position. It seems you had NO CLUE has to what you were getting yourself into when you made the team.
Yeah, that's why I lasted so long. Because I had no idea.

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I said it was a problem to begin with, so what's with the "now" comment?
Just making sure.


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If only your teammates know how well you work, then you have not done your job.
I was called the best PWA by several different people. I'm not saying I am the best, or was the best, or anything, but some people apparently appreciated my work alot.

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THAT'S THE THING. PEOPLE ONLY KNOW HOW WELL YOU WORK BEHIND THE "CLOSED DOORS". YOU'RE A PWA, OR ATLEAST WERE. THE PLAYERS SHOULD KNOW HOW YOU WORK, NOT ONLY THOSE THAT ARE BEHIND THOSE CLOSED DOORS. PWA MEMBERS WORK WITH THE PLAYERS, NOT ONLY WITH THE OTHER GLOBAL STAFF. IT SEEMS YOU HAVE FAILED AS A PWA MEMBER.
No, you *******.
Why don't you explain to me why everyone should know when a server is attacked? Or when there is a falling out between co-managers? Or when there's a sexual harassment problem with a staff member on server X? It is the PWA's job to make sure these things don't become known.
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Man...you really love to complain.
And you really love to say stupid, unfounded things. Just how far did you fall when you were dropped on your head as a child?
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:38 AM
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I hope I'm not wasting my time by posting relatively valid points here, VT.

Please address them
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:38 AM
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Where do you think most of the ideas, before I was hired, came from?
How about the original team, which included Angel? You didn't invent Zone, buddy. The framework and ideas were there long before you were.
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I would help Stefan a lot before I was hired, so one day we talked and he thought it would be best if I joined the team. I joined the team back in January or February, and since then, I've continued helping out on Zone. Kthxbai.
Wow, January or February? That's great! Where were you back when the server was actually created and run?
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:40 AM
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No way, Stefan and Notepad totally slowed down on giving away free gold. It basically never happens now .
Yeah, but it should happen when people prove themselves.
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Recognition and power doesn't pay for your gold, which is all I'm saying
It's true. Many people would probably pay to work as a PWA. I'm not one of them. I'm not saying people who are have no lives or anything, but I have alot more life than Graal and to be frank, I have better things to do than solve petty disputes.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:43 AM
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I have better things to do than solve petty disputes.
Dude, then stop making them. This thread was basically started as a mud throwing contest.

I can absolutely relate with the "I have better things to do"; if you have better things to do than just go do them.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:44 AM
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How about the original team, which included Angel? You didn't invent Zone, buddy. The framework and ideas were there long before you were.
Use your logic and think for a second. Within the time frame that I started playing Zone, to the point that I was hired, most ideas came from me. I know that the server was first created by Angel and her team. Heck, some people are still banned with comments made by Angel. I havn't played Zone as long as most have, so I can only speak for the period that I played Zone for.

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Wow, January or February? That's great! Where were you back when the server was actually created and run?
On another server. What type of question is this?
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:44 AM
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Dude, then stop making them. This thread was basically started as a mud throwing contest.
Not what I meant, I'm talking about PWA duties. Tons of messages, all saying "this guy took my rights!", and "this guy disconnected me!" and "this guy deleted my material and my manager won't do anything!" or "I got banned for speed hacking but I didn't really!".
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:46 AM
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Use your logic and think for a second. Within the time frame that I started playing Zone, to the point that I was hired, most ideas came from me. I know that the server was first created by Angel and her team. Heck, some people are still banned with comments made by Angel. I havn't played Zone as long as most have, so I can only speak for the period that I played Zone for.
My logic says that you basically stated that you were largely responsible for what Zone is now. Zone wouldn't even be here without Angel.
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:51 AM
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Not what I meant, I'm talking about PWA duties. Tons of messages, all saying "this guy took my rights!", and "this guy disconnected me!" and "this guy deleted my material and my manager won't do anything!" or "I got banned for speed hacking but I didn't really!".
Yea, but every admin that releases their instant messenger contact gets that stuff, I was only a GP on GK and I got that **** all the time. [EDIT]People though I was a PWA, for some reason (no joking). [/EDIT]
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:54 AM
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Old 05-25-2005, 01:55 AM
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My logic says that you basically stated that you were largely responsible for what Zone is now. Zone wouldn't even be here without Angel.

I suggest you don't rely on your logic.


Oh, and Zone wouldn't be where it is today if it werent for both Angel and Stefan.
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Old 05-25-2005, 02:26 AM
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Hm. I'm kinda late on the reply.

Though, bye VT!

It's been great knowing you, don't be a stranger on AIM.

Good luck in the future!
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