[Request] Crystia

[Elk]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

nah including ya gfx 2 plz!!

Lol that can't be done, not under these oldfashioned circumstances

[xAndrewx]

you do know you uploaded crystia on Era... technically they already belong to Graal haha

[Crow]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

you do know you uploaded crystia on Era... technically they already belong to Graal haha

If you still believe that your uploaded content automatically belongs to Graal you must be quite stupid.

[xAndrewx]

so what ever is uploaded on Graals FTP can't be used by Graal employees.
Yeah I'm stupid.

[Galdor]

Give us new improved super duper Crystia Eeeeeelk!!!

[kia345]

so if I upload pirated movies on Graal, you guys are free to use them for whatever you want??

[xAndrewx]

if the stuff isn't copyrighted- i don't see why not. am i wrong? lol

[kia345]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

am i wrong? lol

Most likely. While the EULA appears silent on uploading/posting, the Rules of Conduct clearly state Graal doesn't own anything that gets uploaded.

Players may not upload files or post messages that contain photos, music, software or other material protected by intellectual property laws, rights of privacy or publicity or any other applicable law unless they own or control the rights thereto or have received all the necessary consents. GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

[xAndrewx]

you do know it costs $$$ to copyright. I don't think anyone has ever done this for Graal stuff

[Galdor]

Well like if you take a photo its copyrighted instantly to you (at least Ive heard) xD

so like I bet its the same with all sort of art, and scripts and story stuff and w/e so unless its like a contract where you agree that graal overtakes the ownership of the stuff you created I don't think they can like use it however they want.

but like proving that its yours is harder I believe, especially for game art as there isn't any room for like some watermarks or signatures to make it obvious.

... but I have no clue really how this stuff works xD

[kia345]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

you do know it costs $$$ to copyright. I don't think anyone has ever done this for Graal stuff

Players may not upload files or post messages that contain photos, music, software or other material protected by intellectual property laws, rights of privacy or publicity or any other applicable law unless they own or control the rights thereto or have received all the necessary consents. GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

GraalOnline is not responsible for any use of anything you say or post.

In case that isn't blunt enough, that's saying "Graal doesn't claim rights to anything that gets posted", and posted here refers to both uploading and chat. It doesn't have anything to do with copyright (yes, it says don't upload copyrighted material), but right after that it says, as plain as day, Graal will never be responsible (own) anything that gets uploaded. What this is is Graal saying "if you say/post something illegal, it's not our fault", but it works both ways in terms of content.

Also, I wouldn't put it past Elk to have copyrighted things he's worked on, and as an artist for a game, copyright rules are different concerning creative licenses and such. And if you want to get really technical with loopholes, since all of Elk's art is made in third party software (ie., not Graal), the EULA specifically says Graal has no control over it.

also, "rights of privacy" is really vague.

[Demisis_P2P]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

you do know it costs $$$ to copyright. I don't think anyone has ever done this for Graal stuff

Not as far as I'm aware.

Who owns copyright

In general the copyright owner is the author or maker of the relevant material. However a work created in the context of employment is owned by the employer. A work created by a contractor is owned by the contractor. However it is possible to vary these provisions by agreement.

The Copyright Act does not require the completion of formalities (such as publication, registration or the payment of fees) in order to obtain protection in Australia, or any other country which is also a party to an international copyright treaty. (This is unlike the position with patents, trade marks and designs where registration is a pre-condition to protection.) Copyright protection is granted automatically from the time an original work is made in a material form.

Like other forms of property, copyright can be assigned to a new owner, or use of the copyright material licensed - either exclusively or non-exclusively. Assignments and licences may be qualified by reference to time, territory and other factors.

[cbk1994]

Originally Posted by xAndrewx

you do know it costs $$$ to copyright.

wat

[kia345]

Originally Posted by cbk1994

wat

US copyrights are free (since it exists as soon as the work being copyrighted exists), but there's a fee to register them.

[xAndrewx]

ahhh i c ty