Scam complaints accumulate

[Kaimetsu]

Originally Posted by Malinko

It's not like we don't help. Of course, we try to retrieve the scammed items back, though, if we can't, we can't

Then in what way was it ever legal?

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by Kaimetsu

Then in what way was it ever legal?

I didn't enforce any rules against scamming - I was told not to by Bjorn.

One time I tried to retrieve some items from a player who had scammed another - then I was very rudely scolded by Bjorn so I decided that if that's what he wants - I'll do it. I also didn't enforce the rule against USD sales very often either (Back when there was zero tolerance)

It's funny, you help the players you get scolded... you enforce the rules to a period and make an example of a player every now and then and you get canned. *shrug* Ces't le vie.

[calani]

Originally Posted by Zero_Hour

It's funny, you help the players you get scolded... you enforce the rules to a period and make an example of a player every now and then and you get canned. *shrug* Ces't le vie.

I feel your pain.

[TheJames]

Yea this is really old but I most say, how is a GK Staff member able to sell USD and still be a staff member? nullify sold $500 worth to Crusty Deadbeard and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

[protagonist]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Yea this is really old but I most say, how is a GK Staff member able to sell USD and still be a staff member? nullify sold $500 worth to Crusty Deadbeard and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

:o

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[xAndrewx]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Yea this is really old but I most say, how is a GK Staff member able to sell USD and still be a staff member? nullify sold $500 worth to Crusty Deadbeard and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

When was this? x-x

[GoZelda]

Originally Posted by TheJames

Yea this is really old but I most say, how is a GK Staff member able to sell USD and still be a staff member? nullify sold $500 worth to Crusty Deadbeard and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

This is Graal.

And USD selling isn't illegal.

[dNeonb]

Originally Posted by TheJames

and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

Because noone knows anything about it ?

And no he is no staff on Graal Kingdoms. He is some Kingdom LAT on Debug but not on Graal Kingdoms.

[Zero Hour]

Originally Posted by dNeonb

Because noone knows anything about it ?

And no he is no staff on Graal Kingdoms. He is some Kingdom LAT on Debug but not on Graal Kingdoms.

Originally Posted by TheJames

Yea this is really old but I most say, how is a GK Staff member able to sell USD and still be a staff member? nullify sold $500 worth to Crusty Deadbeard and since hes staff no ones doing anything.

I would like to point out to both of you that it was made very clear that selling/buying for USD is perfectly "legal" so long as the arrangement for is not made on the Graal Online servers. This way, if you're scammed, Graal Online can in no way be held responsible.

Buying/selling USD is a risk you take.

[TheJames]

It happend Monday. And it was done on Graalonline. On Graal Kindgoms, I have pictures and stuff to prove it aswell. A few history screen shots and a few player screen shots. I don't really care, just the fact that hes letting everyone glitch good items..But thats another topic, glitching. Haha.. Well on the topic of nullify, he wears his "GK Staff" tag and that seems like he's staff to me..? Not to mention he claims that he is staff. I massed a cussword, oh bad me and he claims that he will pillory me the next time I mass a cussword because he is "GK Staff". So your saying that he isnt? ..Well anyways.. Sam claims that USD'ing is completely illegal and tries to stop it. He massed some rules last week and it said that USD was illegal, so I presume it is illegal considering hes GP Admin for Graal Kingdoms?

[Craigus]

He is admin but still needs to follow the Graal code of conduct...perhaps you should read it if you are confused.

[Sam]

Originally Posted by Schlurfy

I
...ILLEGAL AND BANNABLE IS ALSO:

- Selling, buying, advertising items, or accounts for real money on Graal

This is what I massed and you can read the complete text here.

I will explain that a bit more.
We do not allow to do business for real money on Graal Servers. That includes announcing items for USD.
All deals people do outside of Graal isn't our business.

If someone announces: "Selling bomy lord helmet for 100 USD" it is illegal.
If he find a silly person who will pay for pixels lots of money outside of Graal it is a lucky guy. He can be happy to sell a pic to an idiot.

The tag (GK Staff) is available for all staff working on Graal Kingdoms, including kingdoms staff like LAT's, translaters or kingdom leaders. That doesn't mean they have any rights like pillory or so.

[nullify]

Selling for USD is legal as long as nothing is coordinated on the game itself. I was told this by every admin, so it must be true!