Classic

[Tyhm]

People seem to think you can, by the careful blend of simultaneously uploading and never uploading, bring the oldbies back to Classic who were only there because there was only one server and/or they were trying to get their own levels up.

Something I've learned from my 3 or 4 years (was it more? Who cares) as manager:
Screw the oldbies. No matter what you do, they're going to complain. Oldbies are the past; if they weren't, they'd stop leaving every time you change something. It's harsh, and it's not entirely accurate (there are always a few oldbies who are actually there to check out the changes, who are amused rather than offended by New Things), but as a general statement, if an oldbie complains that you've ruined classic, that only means the day ends in a Y.
Newbies, on the other hand - they're the future. They're tomorrow's oldbies. They're the ones who will judge whether Classic is a server on which to stay or one to forget they wasted so much time on. And Newbies actually can be pandered to by the Levels team, unlike Oldbies, who demand the return of Bruges and Vangel - they want things to do. Not even events, they (as a swarm) want levels with which to get a feel for the game. Sure, they'll run out of quests someday, then they'll hang out with the friends they made during their questing, or perhaps they'll PK either the enemies they made or just everyone they can find for daring to make their life so hard, or perhaps they'll form their own events - like we used to, back in the Real Old Days.
Unofficial "Go when the bomb goes off" spars in rooms that were neither scripted nor designed for it, usually chosen by virtue of their easy access. Even less official "Tour groups" and "Newbie Helpers" from the days before there was a FAQ to ignore you. Races across the map that would or wouldn't be ruined by a hacker based entirely on who happened to be on to wreck it. Scavenger hunts run without the aide of GC tools.

The joke is, if you ignore oldbies whining long enough to waste your time on the "Stupid Newbie Quests", the Newbies will all have around a hundred hours before they've got enough stuff to consider themselves jaded Oldbies, then they can amuse themselves, even without a GC on.

-Tyhm {Tour Guide}

[Shaun]

Most of the time, I agree with Tyhm. His version of Classic/Adventure/Main was the best we've had yet. I am, however, less inclined to agree with this.

The problem right now is not that people are trying to cater to oldbies. The problem is that virtually nothing is being done to make the overworld or quests.

According to Storm, this is due to this chain of problems:

The Levels Administrator apparently can't access his computer. Because of this, members of the LAT cannot be hired. The LAT only has one tiler right now. With the exception of GC Devs and people like GrowlZ, not many are doing much for the developement of the server.

The solution is simple:

Remove the Levels Administrator. It's nothing personal, but if he/she can't do his/her job, then don't waste time. Get somebody with experience willing to work. Get a tiling team large enough to make an overworld. Implement the playerworld's actual content in the overworld as it expands.

What Tyhm says may apply eventually, but it doesn't apply yet. The server is not yet at the level where they can even begin that.

[Polo]

Originally Posted by Shaun

The LAT only has one tiler right now.

4 Tilers; Racil, Exodus, Maximus and Daniel. We had 5, but Moonite has quit due to time constraints and such.

[Tyhm]

Yeah, that'll do it. A dead LAT Admin can slow things down a lot (that's why I quit).

Heck, I say if Classic's not ready to go by year end, Stefan release the levels (even the stuff I toiled so long and so hard on) and make a contest of it - whoever can put together a working server first gets free hosting and managerial control of it, as clearly they are best suited to running Classic. That'd be a hoot...but he'd never risk the levels and NPCs landing on yet another illegal GServer.

Not that they live long anymore. Ahh, those were the days.

[jake13jake]

Originally Posted by Polo

4 Tilers; Racil, Exodus, Maximus and Daniel. We had 5, but Moonite has quit due to time constraints and such.

I was told that I wasn't hired as a tiler because I was better as a scripter anyway, and also because I develop for GC. I don't see the sense that I can't work as an LAT and make levels for the entire server and the GCs, rather than being limited to just GC levels (even though I am definitely going to help with scripts, I just won't have any access to them whatsoever).

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by Polo

4 Tilers; Racil, Exodus, Maximus and Daniel. We had 5, but Moonite has quit due to time constraints and such.

All but Racil are new. I had not realized you begun to take my advice. Last I had heard, the others were trying to get in, but they were being blocked because of the lack of an active levels admin.